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Offline BeachLife

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« on: December 26, 2020, 20:43. »
Thought I would start for a new thread that we could populate as information from the agreement gets analysed:

From @simoncalder on Twitter regarding EHIC

"From 1.1.21 UK residents will continue to get free health care in EU  EHICs remain valid If yours has run out, they're not issuing new ones. Instead, you must apply for a "provisional replacement certificate" (PRC) from hospital.

The NHS is not issuing new EHICs to UK citizens. Instead, if you need treatment abroad you need to get a provisional replacement certificate (PRC) from hospital. You, or a companion/family member, must call NHS Overseas Healthcare Services on +44 191 218 1999 during working hours"

There, thats a start !

PS - not sure if its needed or not next year but I got a International Driving Permit for use in Spain last week, just £5 from a appropriate Post Office (check on the web first - not all Po's do them)
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« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2020, 21:08. »
Here's a few more...
"If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got."

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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2020, 00:03. »
I keep reading conflicting accounts about EHIC cards and IDP's so am waiting for it all to shake out and come clear.
A gov.uk site said health cards would be valid until they expired (2023 for me) and would then be replaced with a UK equivalent, the papers say they are not valid unless you are in the EU at Brexit in which case they are valid until you return.
I've also read IDP's are not required, ive had a French one for 18 months and a Spanish one that has 6 months left on it. Don’t buy a Spanish one too soon as they are only valid 12 months.
Best to wait until someone reads the script and gives us a FAQ's.
There's plenty of time before most of us are going anywhere anyway; my plan earlier in November was to go tomorrow and cross into Spain on the 28th but travel across Spain is banned so that put paid to that.

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« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2020, 09:17. »
Here's a few more...


Certainly free calls etc remain on my mobile.

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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2020, 09:27. »
If you are lucky enough to be in a position to pay CGT on the sale of your property you will also now face a higher bill...from memory CGT for EU citizens is in the order of 19% and for others 24%.

I remember quite a few years ago we as EU citizens were treated differently to residents in terms of the amount of property tax we paid every year, c.15 years ago the EU declared this as illegal and we were all treated the same, me memory tells me this reduced the bill by a few hundred euros a year....the different tax rate still exists for non EU property owners, so I guess a bigger bill is on the horizon.

A joy for us when we drove down was stopping at a few vineyards on the way home and buying a few cases for personal consumption....that's a perk that's no longer available unless you want to declare it and pay the duty.

Interesting thread BeachLife

Regards all

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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2020, 10:10. »
Gov UK have updated their pages on driving abroad re. international driving permits. Neither Spain or France require one except:-

France - If you hold a paper driving licence or a driving licence from Gibraltar, Jersey, Guernsey or the Isle of Man, you may need a 1968 IDP from 1 January 2021. Check with the French Embassy.

Spain - You do not need an IDP to drive here for periods up to 6 months.

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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2020, 11:55. »
From The Times today

Travelling to Europe
From New Year’s Day, British passport-holders arriving at EU destinations will have to queue with those from the rest of the world. Air passengers arriving at Heathrow and Gatwick from the EU will continue to use the same e-gates for passport checks as British passengers. They will join those from the rest of the world only for customs checks.

The travel industry hopes Britain will strike bilateral agreements with countries such as Spain, Portugal and Greece, which would give British tourists preferential treatment in exchange for similar concessions for visitors. Britain already has such agreements with America, Canada, New Zealand, Singapore and South Korea.

Border controls will be more intrusive, with officials asking travellers to state the purpose of their visit. It will be forbidden to take meat or milk products (even in snacks) into the EU. Airlines such as Easyjet are advising passengers to check their passports have at least six months’ validity and are less than 10 years old, even though EU guidance requires only three months’ validity.

At some time in 2022, those visiting Europe will also have to apply for a three-year Etias permit, a €7 visa waiver akin to the American Esta. But motorists will not be required to obtain an international driving permit.

Taking your pet abroad will become more complicated. Although pet passports will still be valid for those travelling from Northern Ireland, for the rest of the UK dogs, cats and ferrets must be microchipped and vaccinated against rabies, which can be carried out only once they are 12 weeks old. Owners must have an animal health certificate to travel from the rest of the UK to Northern Ireland and the EU.

Travellers returning from the EU will have a new duty-free allowance of 200 cigarettes, four litres of spirits or nine litres of sparkling wine, 18 litres of still wine and 42 litres of beer.

Using a mobile phone abroad should not become more expensive — at least for now. Mobile companies say they will not reimpose “roaming charges” abolished by the EU, but would be free to do so. As a protection, the government has set a cap of £45 in any billing period.

All this is assuming that you can travel to Europe. From January 1, the UK is set to be placed on the EU’s Covid-19 high-risk travel list, which means curbs on travel for weeks — or even months — until our rates of infection drop. At best, travellers may be required to produce a negative test certificate; at worst they could face a ban on non-essential travel.

Visiting your holiday home on the Continent
Matters will become more difficult for those who divide their time between Dorking and the Dordogne. They will have to obtain a visa to stay for more than 90 days out of any 180-day period within the Schengen free movement zone, to which most EU countries belong. Different rules will probably be introduced, with more generous arrangements offered by those EU countries dependent on tourism.

Working and studying abroad
Brexit means UK citizens will lose their automatic right to work in the EU, although those who have established residency by the end of this year can apply to stay. Anyone wanting to move to the EU from January 1 to work or retire will have to apply for a visa. The same is true for a Briton already resident in, say, France, who wants to work in Germany. Students at universities in Britain will no longer be able to participate in the Erasmus exchange programme, although the government has said there will be a new scheme. Students at universities in Northern Ireland will continue to be eligible under an arrangement with the Irish government.

Recent article from E lPais

https://english.elpais.com/brexit/2020-12-18/spains-brexit-fears-fewer-tourists-and-dwindling-exports.html

Offline Carolyn

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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2020, 16:36. »
Great topic, very useful information.

Offline wilson

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« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2020, 19:06. »
Totally agree, all seems straightforward and easy to work with.

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« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2020, 22:17. »
Do we need a Green card if you have a Spanish registered car over in Gran Alacant or just an international driving permit please ?

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« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2020, 22:49. »
Hi Nick
The answer on international driving licences has all ready been given above being you do not require one. As far as insurance goes if it is a Spanish Reg car insured in Spain you obviously do not need a green card unless you drive it outside the country it is insured in.

I think so many are really making hard work of this and looking hard for problems. Just carry on with life and you will be fine.

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« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2020, 23:15. »
Thanks Derek for the info

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« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2020, 09:22. »
My spanish car insurance comes with a green card issued as standard as part of the policy documents.

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« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2020, 11:01. »
Brilliant topic, thanks for all the information

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« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2020, 13:02. »
hi beach life, good topic on e.u.i.c, i have 2 years left to run on my health card, just wondered if the medical centre will renew my temp SIP card which ran out sept if presented with my e.u.i.c along with your passport.
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