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Offline John H

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« on: September 22, 2015, 15:56. »
I've just been reading that the public prosecutor is reviewing whether to take action against the British family who restrained a burglar at their property.
I wonder if anyone knows what the law is in Spain regarding this?
I know if I found a burglar in our house they wouldn't be treated with respect for their wellbeing!!

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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2015, 16:17. »
The burglar did die, so a bit of a difference then just restraining someone. Of course it need looking into properly.
You cant kill people! Like the case in the uk of the farmer shooting the burglar in the back as he was fleeing.
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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2015, 16:34. »
Would you be expected to know the burglar possibly had a heart condition?
I'd throw them down the stairs, that marble isn't very forgiving, and ask questions once I thought they were no longer a threat to me or my family

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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2015, 16:49. »
Yes of course I agree, if they are a threat do all you can.
And I suppose the police are always killing people while restraining them and they are trained......
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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2015, 19:17. »
I'm with the common man here break into my house your fair game ... The U.K. Law on this has just been changed and judges now have to consider the threat and terror of the people in the house etc.. But as far as I'm concerned if you go out to commit a crime like this and end up like this guy did then tough !!!!
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« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2015, 22:32. »
The police are always killing people whilst restraing them . Where did you read this nonsense the daily mail
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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2015, 00:10. »
People who are restrained quite often have drink,drug and serious health problems caused by the drink/drugs making them behave badly in the first place.
And then people moan about them being restrained!
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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2015, 20:35. »
....SORRY NOT GA.....last post from me on this........

Hello Victor...

38 "restraint related" deaths in custody 20111/2012 in uk

http://www.rcn.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0008/539936/4.3.1_Duxbury.pdf
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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2015, 21:45. »
As i said daily mail sensational nonsense inflamed by people with little understanding of the real world
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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2015, 01:05. »
Positional asphyxia and excited delirium are the most common reasons people die in custody, which are brought on by the person struggling to escape.
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« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2015, 22:01. »
Well said Philndeb.
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« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2015, 02:26. »
Whats......"well said"....lets kill people???

 Positional asphyxia....(wikipedia)
A significant number of people die suddenly during restraint by police, prison (corrections) officers and health care staff.
 Positional asphyxia may be a factor in some of these deaths.
Positional asphyxia is a potential danger of some physical restraint techniques,

philndeb...hence me saying "the police are always killing people while restraining them and they are trained."

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« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2015, 02:31. »
Please don't get me wrong...we should and would, do all to protect our house and family ....would i strangle someone to death...no....do the police routinely do this...yes (and they are trained about Positional asphyxia  )
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« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2015, 10:43. »





Quote from: Phillip on September 25, 2015, 02:26.
Whats......"well said"....lets kill people???

 Positional asphyxia....(wikipedia)
A significant number of people die suddenly during restraint by police, prison (corrections) officers and health care staff.
 Positional asphyxia may be a factor in some of these deaths.
Positional asphyxia is a potential danger of some physical restraint techniques,

philndeb...hence me saying "the police are always killing people while restraining them and they are trained."

A lot of people who come into custody have serious illnesses brought on by lifestyle choices, in the case of Police custody a lot are drunk and or under the influence of drugs when arrested. So how are the Police supposed to know a persons medical history barring everyone carrying their doctors notes in their back pocket?. Also Police are by their very name Police and not medical staff so are not trained to the same level to recognise the early symptoms of serious medical problems. People die in Police custody but are not killed by the Police but die from medical problems. This is being slowly rectified by nurses being in custody suites. So saying Police kill people in custody is untrue, they just die there a bit like people die in hospital.


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« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2015, 18:41. »
Well put factual explanation philndeb unlike the other liberal nonsence
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