PCR test in Spain

[TRIDENT]

Jan= 31   feb=28    march=31     ......1st April

[Blue and white stripes]

That'll teach me to proof read my posts in future. Yes 1st April.

[Blue and white stripes]

All irrelevant now. Cyprus is allowing entry free of any restrictions to anyone from the UK who is fully inoculated from the 1st May (or in our case 17th atm).

[DaveG]

Just nice timing for my second dose; oh I forgot we are not allowed to travel until the 17th May and I'm not sure there will be flights.

Joking apart it's a step in the right direction and only a matter of time before others follow suit (Greece probably next) and I read yesterday that the Seychelles will very soon admit anybody - vaccinated or not, except from SA - as their vaccination programme is almost complete, although why you would go stay in a hotel where the other guests could be infected I don't know.

It may be easier for Cyprus as they are not in Schengen but the Spanish tourism minister said recently that if the EU could not get it's act together re tourism they would act bilaterally with other countries.

Light at the end of the tunnel.

[wilson]

I think this will severely test the EU we all act as one theory, several countries understandably are putting there own economies first. Cyprus are stating that your welcome a week after second jab with no pcr or quarantine required, the proof provided has not yet been mentioned but it will need to be secure otherwise the covidiots will be buying them off eBay and then flying amongst us.

[Blue and white stripes]

Yep I agree with Wilson. I'm all in favour of a vaccine passport so those of us who have had the two doses can go abroad and holiday while all the 'no' brigade can stay at home and infect themselves.

[Derek]

Yep I agree with Wilson. I'm all in favour of a vaccine passport so those of us who have had the two doses can go abroad and holiday while all the 'no' brigade can stay at home and infect themselves.

Not a very well thought out comment.  What about those that for health reasons cannot have the vaccination. In addition Children will I suppose be excluded!

Derek

[kevinb]

That's going to be interesting, if your kids aren't vaccinated will they be able to travel abroad ? Don't know when and if they will get round to do the jabs on kids, perhaps not this year even.

[Blue and white stripes]

Please amend my above post - substitute 'no brigade' with 'covidiots (excluding those that cannot have the vaccine for health reasons and children).
:-)

[Derek]

Whilst I think the idea of a vaccination passbook is a good idea as I have received my vaccination I can see problems in it being introduced. It is against the law to discriminate so if someone does not want the vaccination is it right for him then to be refused the right to travel. Surely a claim is possible as he has a right to refuse the vaccination and it must be against his human rights to penalise him for exercising his right to say no.

Derek

[John H]

I haven't looked at the small print Derek but Saga has already said it will require customers on its holidays and cruises to have the vaccination. It will offer refunds to those that won’t. Qantas has also said that passengers can only travel with it if they have had the vaccine when it restarts international flights.

Would reading that encourage me to book a holiday/flight with other like-minded people who take the threat of Covid seriously, dead right it would.

Regards all

John

[Derek]

It is interesting because I have just seen on the news the the NHS are having difficulty as some of their nursing staff are refusing to have the vaccinations. Can you add a condition to someone's employment contract or as with Saga add a condition after the contract has been taken out.

As I understood the law is that both parties need to agree to a change in a contract therefore one side cannot vary the terms without the consent of the other party.

I assume that if you wish to impose the requirement that your staff must have the vaccination then the change in the terms of employment entitle the person to redundancy.

One thing for sure it is new territory and it will make a few pounds for the lawyers for sure.

Derek

[Spurs]

It’s not discriminatory to not allow people to fly if they wont have a vaccine , it’s probably going to be airline policy and I suspect international law. This whole topic of people not getting vaccinated has a long way to go . There are people out there already suggesting that if someone without the vaccine passes it on to another who dies they are arguing that is manslaughter.
I am nervous of knee jerk reactions but I think in this case the safety of the many is far more important than the personal rights of the few.
I am expecting pubs cinemas theatres etc all to follow suite once they are up and running again ,and to be honest I can’t see any reasons there are for not having a vaccine other than your own health wont allow it

[Spurs]

Derek if the law is changed to require that all NHS employees have the vaccine then the trusts will have no choice and a change in law will automatically be incorporated in both new and old contracts of employment without the need for negotiations or compensation as the employer has no control . So no it won’t effect redundancies

[Derek]

Hi Spurs

The point I am making is that you cannot, as the law currently stands, add a condition (vary its terms)  to a contract that has already been entered into. (without the consent of all parties) It is the basic principle of offer and acceptance.

Derek