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« on: August 22, 2018, 09:30. »
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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2018, 11:37. »
Should be about as popular with the locals as a f**t in a spacesuit!

BTW, I hope you rated the translation with a big thumbs down  ;)

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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2018, 12:04. »
translated from the paper

Gran Alacant will have its first hotel in the medium term to meet the demand of visitors who arrive at the coast. Although there is no execution date, the last step that has been taken is the approval of the Isolated Action Program so that the developer can develop a plot of 33,000 square meters, 70% buildable, with vials in two blocks, common areas and connection services, and that the proposed buildings are subsequently constructed.

In this case it would be a four-star hotel and five floors plus basement; a residential complex with 95 townhouses of two and three heights, in addition to a commercial area of ​​two floors, all located on the Avenida de Scandinavia and with a total estimate of the work close to 12 million euros for the hotel; 9.5 for the residential and more than one million to urbanize the environment, all without counting other expenses of licenses or insurance that would trigger the investment above 23 million. These projects will be executed on land with different land use, on the one hand residential and then tertiary, depending on each construction, and the work will be undertaken by the Society Promoters of Housing SL, through an urban development agreement within the general plan that they signed in 2005 with City Hall.

According to this agreement, the developer will not obtain the building license of the residential until they are granted the license to build the hotel, and the certificate of completion will not arrive by the Consistory until four-star accommodation is completed.

Also, there is still no date for the first stone to be laid, but the plan already has favorable environmental reports and the isolated action program has been approved as the condition of developer to this aforementioned promoter, information that has been exposed , without allegations, and since yesterday appears in the Official Gazette of the Province.

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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2018, 13:58. »
another paper

08/22/2018
ALICANTE The Town Hall of Santa Pola has just definitively approved an urban action started in 2016 to build a four-star hotel and 95 single-family homes in the Gran Alacant urbanization, one of the most recognizable tourist enclaves in the city. The action, urged by the owner of the land, a Galician firm at the head of which is currently the well-known businessman Honorato Lopez Isla (ex Union Fenosa), can start when the promoter deems it appropriate, since it has all the congratulations of the Administration.

The place where the action is planned is the polygon 2.7 of Gran Alacant, a large virgin site at the end of the Scandinavia avenue, between the Olivo de Oro and El Faro urbanisations, according to sources familiar with the project. Very close to this plot, surrounded by consolidated urbanizations, is the municipal sports center. The plot is owned by the company Promotores de Viviendas SL, of Galician origin, which initiated the procedures to build the hotel and the residential two years ago.

According to the characteristics of the project, published in the Official Gazette of the Province (BOP) of Alicante, the action is divided into two plots. The first, of 12,931 square meters, is for tertiary and hotel use. In this plot the construction of a four-star hotel is authorized, of a maximum of five heights, with a total built-up area of ​​15,517.2 meters, equivalent to an occupation of 35% of the plot. On the hotel floor, another building of two heights for tertiary use is planned, according to the project.

In the adjoining plot, also owned by this company and for residential use, the construction of 95 single-family semi-detached houses of two and three heights is authorized (maximum three floors allowed). This plot has 20,369 square meters, with a buildability of 0.7 and a maximum occupancy of 45%. Between both plots the promoter must build a road access to the action, and also provides a common area in the central part of the action for garden with a total area of ​​1,800 square meters.
The approval of the action, as explained by the announcement published in the BOP, occurs after a period of public exposure of 45 days in which the initiative has not received any allegation. The construction of the hotel and the houses also has all the favorable reports (among others, of Aena, due to the proximity to the airport, and Hidraqua, on the availability of water resources), and the declaration of positive environmental impact of the Generalitat. Given that the land was already classified as urban, the action is subject to an urban agreement, according to the sources consulted. One of the premises is that before giving occupancy licenses to the residential the 4 star hotel must be in operation.

The company that owns the land and started the process, however, no longer exists. Promotores de Viviendas SL (formerly, Promotores de Viviendas SA, or Provisa) was a promoter of A Coruña, which in 2017 was acquired by another Galician firm, Fergo Galicia, dedicated to the construction of infrastructures and the promotion of housing. At the head of this firm, which absorbed the first and therefore is understood to 'inherit' the plot (and the administrative authorization to lift the hotel and housing), is the well-known businessman Honorato López Isla.

The president of Fergo Galicia, which also holds a stake in the capital of the company with the founding family, was for years CEO of Unión Fenosa (between 2002 and 2009, until the merger with Gas Natural), and maintains a close relationship personal with the president of ACS, Florentino Pérez, who led him to work as an independent director of the business conglomerate of the president of Real Madrid until last year. Currently, although its main field of business activity has been telecommunications, López Isla is focused on the construction of wind farms.

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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2018, 17:34. »
Not sure if this will happen  .......  although "stuff" is happening up there.

I noticed that the parttially completed development (that even had a few people living in it) immediatly after the Municpal Sports ground is being "relaunched" somehow after many years of being a eyesore with claddings being removed and new rendering put in place. I wonder how the handful of people who actually moved in are getting on ?
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2018, 19:37. »
Bit like buses these hotels, they all come at once!!
I suppose they’ll be needed to accommodate all the golfers when the course opens
It’s not 1st April is it......

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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2018, 09:47. »
Before they build any more - wouldn't it be "nice" to tidy up the two eyesores that are in Arenales and the derelict place on the turn off into Santa Pola.

The one in Arenales looks even worse than ever - I know its been like it for a while now, it just looks like its about to fall down
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2018, 17:55. »
Well the hotel on the 332 as you approach the Santa Pola turn off went out of business, does make you wonder how many customers it would attract, I love GA but it has some problems like people dumping rubbish by bins, you don't get posh hotels doing business with these sort of issues in the vicinity, think it would take investors with nerves of steel to build the proposed hotel.

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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2018, 18:09. »
Hi Kevin, hope all’s good
The locations they are talking about for all these hotels makes me laugh, folk on a Mediterranean holiday want to walk out of the hotel and be on a beach.....not next to a supermarket car park and next to a busy road or up a hill where you need legs like a mountain goat to get to the action.
If they built a “Premier Inn” type of hotel for business travelers it might stand a good chance of success, but a holiday makers hotel.....no chance.
No disrespect to GA either, but you don’t put a 4 Star hotel in a 2 Star resort.
The “hotel” in Arenalas is a disgrace and clearly shows the importance that Elche puts on their beach side zones, it’s unbelievable that it’s been left like that for years.
Someone had a plan for the hotel in Santa Pola at the side of the 332 a few years ago, they wanted to convert it into the biggest Club, read brothel, in Europe, but they were refused. Pity, if they’d made it look anything like D’Angelos in Alicante it would have been a stunning looking building and kept a lot of folk happy

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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2018, 10:04. »
If they are talking of specifically two hotels next to Fosters then that would make sense, unfortunately.

I have travelled pretty extensively in Spain, and made frequent use of Ibis and Premier Inn style places, and now I think about it that spot there is absolutely made to measure for an Ibis + Ibis Budget pair. I think it would be a real shame though, it would "signal" that the GA Commercial zone was being seen as more of a Poligono (industrial estate) than a leisure area. All the other business hotels like that I have stayed in were in more industrial areas than touristic.

It means we can also likely look forward to a "Sportswear clearance depot" and some cut-price mattress shops alongside, and not - as I always hoped - a Cinema/Bowling alley.

As for the hotel "at the top". Lunacy if you ask me. What tourist wants a stunning view of the sea, and then the stark realisation that they are a ten minute drive (and a two hour park) away from it? Or maybe they could really put GA on the map by building a 20 million euro slide. That I would like to see.

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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2018, 12:04. »
2 star resort is a bit strong John, I never think of GA as a resort at all but a beachside town where a lot of people live and work and a lot of people also have holiday homes because of its location. 
There is a major problen with rubbish collection here which always gets worse in the summer but, generally, all year round we need MORE rubbish collections and or more bins and some decent street cleaning service at least once a week to spray clean around the bins.  Its no good just saying that people shouldnt dump rubbish by the bins, it has and will always happen and it is not just ‘holidaymakers’ that do it but also the Spanish residents too, i have seen it, and have even observed a whole house under new ownership, being emptied and taken to sit by the bins by its new Spanish owners. The answer is get is moved more efficiently.  Since this party took office the street cleaning has worsened and the removal of weeds on pathways has also worsened.  I personally would be happy to see the people in power before return together with Loreta who was a voice for us.
i am completely with you on the hotel issue, it just doesn't make sense to have a hotel up the top and this should be left residential, with a much needed parkland area being added.  There is a perfectly good place for a hotel, the best place as far as anyone wanting to have a hotel holiday is concerned, and that is the location at Arenales where everyone was expecting this to happen and if only the developers and officialdom would stop all the argy bargy and let common sense prevail, it could still make the best location.

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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2018, 15:05. »
Agree John, GA is a great place but I think two star rating is about right for it , I like it because its not a holiday village, a posh hotel might find it difficult to attract customers, not really walkable to the beach, we frequently walk right up Escandinavia and its a hard slog. Will watch what happens with interest.

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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2018, 22:49. »
Hi All
As a person who bought almost 15 years ago visited loads, and have lived here best part of 9 years, I wish to point out that I certainly didn't buy and still don,t class Gran Alicant as a resort, I believe its a community of people living working going about their daily lives ( school /  jobs /retirement) but not a resort, like Hazel I think its a bit strong Ex residents giving it a star ratings. I can name places not far from here that choose to call themselves and market them selves as resorts.
Yes I DO complain and post my views about the situation that we are now having to endure, but for the vast majority  of year GA is a wonderful place location to live and enjoy, the developments up hill are unattainable with the present infrastructure in particular traffic bottle necks, lack of schools medical facilities. and lack of fire services in GA/Santa Pola.
The perhaps building of hotels on N332 which will one day surely be duelled makes sense as to the close proximity to airport ( which must be one of the few airports of size out a onsite hotel) Torellano has a one but nothing else close it makes sense and good for jobs and economy of our community.
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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2018, 23:18. »
Why can’t an ex resident give it a star rating?
Surely after owning a property there for 14 years I have a right to comment?
The main thing that kept us in GA for so long was our friends.
It’s not a very scenic place
You’re not spoilt for choices when it come to good restaurants
There’s no beach side restaurants where you can enjoy a meal with the water lapping close to your table
Apart for the supermarkets it’s not a place where the Mrs and her mates can spend an hour looking round the shops
It’s got a great location re the airport and proximity to Alicante and a pretty good beach
That’s why I gave it two stars, I’m sure the guests in a four star hotel would agree with me.

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« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2018, 00:12. »
Isn’t a resort a place that is frequented for holidays?
I guess there’s lots of folk on holiday there at the moment as there are at Easter and in the peak Summer months.
If it wasn’t a resort it would be as quiet in the Summer as it is throughout the Winter.

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