Post by: Barry former GA Advertiser on January 05, 2016, 12:16.
Crazy things take place on Gran Alacant.
We like to use the coffee shop Sezadu which has parking outside adjacent to the school.
The Urbanisation that it is part of, have decided to gate their community.
They have put the gates BEFORE the coffee shop, rather than AFTER the coffee shop, meaning that the business is now gated in, losing their parking slots, and probably not helping their business.
What idiots made that decision, unless of course someone knows better.
Post by: John H on January 05, 2016, 14:52.
People cant park outside their houses during the school run period due to parents cars parking their cars on private roads.
People are woken in the morning by lorries driving too fast over the speed bumps on our private roads with crates of bottles rattling away.
We have had signs saying Private Roads for a few years..........but no one takes any notice of these.
I dont supoose the other businesess on that corner will be too happy either.
We where told 10 years ago that the whole community would one day be gated, I have allways thought it a bad move........but I'm in the minority.
It has been debated continualy and shouldnt come as a surprise to anyone who owns a poperty on Novamar
Regards all
John (Novamar resident)
Post by: Barry former GA Advertiser on January 05, 2016, 15:59.
Post by: John H on January 05, 2016, 17:25.
If the business/ parking places falls within the communities demise it has to follow the rules
There could well be several businesses operating from people's houses on the community, Spanish lessons, chiropractor, translator, etc etc......they all face the same problem and the same advantage.
Regards all
John
PS More barriers are being installed.
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Post by: kevinb on January 05, 2016, 18:12.
Post by: Barry former GA Advertiser on January 05, 2016, 18:45.
Post by: Spurs on January 05, 2016, 20:20.
They did ours a few years back doesn't seem to make a difference as a lot have people have multiple communities keys etc .
Post by: Tony Gillam on January 06, 2016, 08:53.
Post by: John H on January 06, 2016, 10:04.
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Post by: Barry former GA Advertiser on January 06, 2016, 14:30.
Post by: John H on January 06, 2016, 14:54.
Regards all
John
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Post by: kevinb on January 06, 2016, 17:24.
Post by: John H on January 06, 2016, 17:52.
The fact that the community would one day be gated has been on the agenda for 10 years
Manoli who owns the cafe also lives on Novamar as well as operating a business on the community
Herbie who operated the bar previously was aware that this was a strong possibility, he also lived on the community
The Administrators who offices are in the same block as Sezado use the cafe.....so I would guess the subjects been debated
Regards all
John
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Post by: Tony Gillam on January 06, 2016, 23:58.
Post by: gaveteran on January 07, 2016, 12:38.
Only in GA could ex-pats buy a house right next to a school and then complain about cars for a few minutes during the school run.
Post by: bertdove on January 07, 2016, 13:27.
Bert
Post by: Maricia on January 07, 2016, 14:00.
BW
Maricia
Post by: kevinb on January 07, 2016, 14:03.
Post by: Maricia on January 07, 2016, 14:05.
BW
Maricia
Post by: kevinb on January 07, 2016, 15:54.
Post by: llamedos on January 07, 2016, 15:58.
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Post by: sunseeker on January 07, 2016, 16:29.
Post by: John H on January 07, 2016, 16:33.
Regards all
John
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Post by: BeachLife on January 07, 2016, 16:40.
Only in GA could ex-pats buy a house right next to a school and then complain about cars for a few minutes during the school run.
Was the school built wehn all those crazy ex-pats bought their houses down there ?
8)
Post by: John H on January 07, 2016, 16:45.
This crazy expat has always been against the idea, in all fairness I'm not on one of the busy roads so I don't experience any problems.
When I look at the results of any voting that takes place I'm one of only a few members of the crazy gang who can be bothered to vote. The apathy always surprises me.
The voters tend to be the Spanish residents
Regards all
John
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Post by: sunseeker on January 07, 2016, 16:55.
They often play Northern Soul and Motown which puts a smile on my face, isn't it a modern day "school bell"
Regards all
John
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Maybe they choose a different selection each week. These were played around 11am I thin so like you say, maybe to signal the end of playtime. Think it was Merseybeat week!
Post by: mike and judith on January 08, 2016, 01:28.
You can see both sides for them. They are still supposed to provide services, but their traditional revenue stream (licences for new housing builds) has gone out of the window. Why adopt a road & incur the expense if you can avoid it? They don't collect rates like the UK, so I can sympathise.
On the other hand, you have to feel for the communities involved, who may have thought twice before spending a fortune on gating if SP had played ball.
This may also explain (other thread) why they are tightening up on unlicenced work on individual properties. There have been enough towns in Spain in recent years where the lights have been turned off through lack of money.
Post by: Tony Gillam on January 08, 2016, 07:42.
The music is somewhat intrusive as well. The volume is way OTT and the duration is excessive. If they wish to forgo the traditional bell, only a couple of bars of the music is needed not a complete symphony!
Post by: Barry former GA Advertiser on January 08, 2016, 10:02.
Post by: John H on January 08, 2016, 13:56.
The Mrs and I play "name that tune" when it changes.
Last time we were out we had some Fontella Bass and the Adlibs, great stuff.
Perhaps if you dont like it, or think it too loud or long you should have a word with the school before you escalate it.
Regards all
John
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Post by: Philndeb on January 09, 2016, 10:35.
Post by: tony and lesley on January 09, 2016, 11:17.
As some comments about us mad brits living down there, well I do and bought my house many moons before any school was built . The original plan said it was council owned open space and would remain so. The fact is the school has probably kept the standards of the area up as in the council pressure washing foot ways, fancy roundabouts,house prices
etc .
I must say as i drive round other areas some of them look like dumping grounds for rubbish.
They did extend the parking area at the school but as in the UK and everywhere else in the world people will always want to park at the front door.
It will interesting to see when the new school is finished opposite the chemist how the residents up there react.
Post by: Philndeb on January 09, 2016, 22:18.
Post by: gaveteran on January 18, 2016, 22:03.
Post by: John H on January 18, 2016, 22:25.
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Post by: Tony Gillam on January 19, 2016, 07:56.
Post by: gaveteran on January 19, 2016, 12:52.
I've lived on two gated communities here while our home was being finished. Gran Vista and Montefaro, both, in my opinion, a complete nightmare. It provided zero extra security. People would just sit outside the gate for five minutes and drive in and out. The guard had no legal rights to do anything at all, and after a while just gave up and watched TV - and collected more community funds.
It did though provide 100% more hassle, from friends and relatives unable to get in, constant mechanical breakdowns (people getting locked in when trying to get to work was particularly amusing), ambulance sirens at the gate, parcels from Amazon and wherever lobbed on the top grass, people trudging up the road hoping taxis would wait outside, or waiting themselves at 5am scared to miss them, just a complete inconvenience. And really to stop what?
I won't go into the incredible security failings at Montefaro in case I give anyone ideas, but suffice to say, that gate and guard (before they laid him of without replacement, after building an expensive outbuilding for him) was like putting lipstick on a pig.
Is there an upside I am missing? perhaps the ability to put "gated community" on the sales poster helps? No idea.
I suppose in this instance it stops parents parking for ten minutes, so tally ho.
Post by: Barry former GA Advertiser on January 26, 2016, 13:11.
Post by: puddy-woo on January 26, 2016, 14:26.
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Post by: gaveteran on January 26, 2016, 21:54.
Post by: Tony Gillam on January 27, 2016, 08:14.
Post by: John H on January 27, 2016, 08:44.
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Post by: Barry former GA Advertiser on January 27, 2016, 12:28.
Post by: John H on January 27, 2016, 13:04.
Why don't we divert all the traffic past your house and send all the parents picking up the kids down your street?
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Post by: Barry former GA Advertiser on January 27, 2016, 14:15.
Presumably the urb voted on it and made a democratic decision
Just all about the cafe
Post by: llamedos on January 27, 2016, 17:37.
If you would like to park outside cafe Sezadu, just pull up in front of the barrier, toot your horn, and the cafe will press the buzzer to let you in
Once everyone knows this it won't stop anyone driving through that has a little toot toot.
Post by: sunseekers on January 27, 2016, 18:39.
Hazel