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Title: Oldest businesses in Gran Alacant
Post by: gaveteran on February 26, 2023, 21:52.
I remain pessimistic about new businesses. Especially bars and "restaurants". Out of interest. What are the longest surviving, currently open, businesses? Any ideas? "Sueno Azul" has been around since I arrive (20 years give or take) but might be recent new owners? All the same - at least it has the same name. The "Dragon's" have been here from the start (at least one of them)... as has "Cocoa". Any other candidates?
Title: Re: Oldest businesses in Gran Alacant
Post by: Aficionado on February 26, 2023, 22:59.
Dunbars? Admittedly it was closed for a long number of years while the owners tried to unload it without success but it reopened a few years back.
Title: Re: Oldest businesses in Gran Alacant
Post by: denandrose on February 26, 2023, 23:36.
Correct about Dragon Restaurants, now called Yanina, but same owners and Cocoas.
I think Ricardo’s in his restaurant , now Cielo Largo, was open when we first came to GA in 2003, of course he is now at A Tu Gusto. Patagonia has been there a good while too.
Title: Re: Oldest businesses in Gran Alacant
Post by: Tony Gillam on February 27, 2023, 06:40.
Haven't been down for a few years. Phoenix was one of the early ones, rising from the ashes, as it were, from the original failed partnership, the name of which escapes me. They then went it alone, hence the name, but I've a feeling they packed it in not all that long ago.
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Post by: Maricia on February 27, 2023, 14:18.
Haven't been down for a few years. Phoenix was one of the early ones, rising from the ashes, as it were, from the original failed partnership, the name of which escapes me. They then went it alone, hence the name, but I've a feeling they packed it in not all that long ago.
The owners of the Pheonix were co-owners of Casanovas (now gone).  Marianne still owns Chasers, albeit not open at present and Vista Bella (opposite Chinese shop) has been there a long time.
Title: Re: Oldest businesses in Gran Alacant
Post by: Blue and white stripes on February 28, 2023, 18:21.
When we came 22 years ago the block with the banks and Dragon hadn't been built. Sueño Azul was there then though as was the restaurant opposite the chinese.
Title: Re: Oldest businesses in Gran Alacant
Post by: Tony Gillam on March 03, 2023, 07:43.
Vista Bella was, when we first came down on an inspection visit in 2001, appropriately named as the block on the seaward side hadn't been built then.
Title: Re: Oldest businesses in Gran Alacant
Post by: gaveteran on March 03, 2023, 13:01.
haha "Vista Bella" - Yes there name makes much more sense now! These days it's more "Vista China", poor souls. Or "Vista Povre".

I think that settles it. It's either Vista Bella or Sueno Azul I think. Now wondering what the shortest lived are haha, but that's a bit cruel. I would be very surprised if there have not been half a dozen that closed before they opened (literally). Gran Alacant - in fairness we invented the "pop-up" restaurant craze  ;D
Title: Re: Oldest businesses in Gran Alacant
Post by: Spurs on March 03, 2023, 16:59.
Vista Bella and suen azul were both there in nov 1999 when we first came to view.
As GA veteran mentions there have been so many short lived it’s hard to remember one in particular but it’s safe to say some of those buildings have had more refurbs and reinventions than they ever had customers . One than springs to mind was Cinema bar . I dread to think how much they spent on the interior of that place loads and loads of charred wood polished to perfection  everywhere expensive lights tables and chairs etc for what maybe 1 year and the max.
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Post by: gaveteran on March 03, 2023, 19:28.
Yes I remember that "Cine Bar". It deserved to succeed really, it was a nice place to be as I recall, and had one of the best refits we've ever seen. Great lighting, pool table with ample space. What is it now? The Chino?
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Post by: ian-steele on March 06, 2023, 14:16.
have you all forgotten the GIRLS on n332 oldest business by far, stopped trading in 2012
Title: Re: Oldest businesses in Gran Alacant
Post by: Spurs on March 06, 2023, 14:28.
Years ago if you looked on Google earth satellite view you could clearly see her sat on her chair under her umbrella
Title: Re: Oldest businesses in Gran Alacant
Post by: wilson on March 08, 2023, 19:07.
In all fairness there have been some excellent bars and restaurants over the years who deserved to succeed but for other reasons closed, there were a couple upstairs at the Carrabasi a Belgium restaurant and Sandhills which were both very popular in there day. When did Gran Mundo open ?
Title: Re: Oldest businesses in Gran Alacant
Post by: gaveteran on March 09, 2023, 10:40.
Gran Mundo could be the oldest Chinese here I think. It's incredible popularity bewilders me. It's not like you can't walk round the corner and look at the kitchen if you want to. I suspect most don't want to see.Their extraction system was a sellotaped yellow desk fan for about ten years. That fan was older than most Gran Alacant businesses by itself.
Title: Re: Oldest businesses in Gran Alacant
Post by: steve watson on March 09, 2023, 11:53.
What’s the name of the Chinese next to Webster bar up the hill , I’m sure it’s still got the original owners? when I first came it was that Chinese, white rose, and dunbars
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Post by: denandrose on March 09, 2023, 12:13.
It’s Maria II , on the corner, as you say next to Webster. We also think it was there since early 2000’s.
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Post by: John H on March 09, 2023, 13:59.
Applogies for the quality of the photos.....there might be a few reminders here

Regards all

John
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Post by: NickiH on March 09, 2023, 17:27.
What about the monte Mar restaurant in Masa square that’s been there since we bought here in 2002
Title: Re: Oldest businesses in Gran Alacant
Post by: wilson on March 09, 2023, 20:50.
I can’t remember a time that Azafran Indian restaurant in masa square wasn’t there.
Title: Re: Oldest businesses in Gran Alacant
Post by: gaveteran on March 10, 2023, 10:37.
Applogies for the quality of the photos.....there might be a few reminders here

Some crackers in their John. I suppose one way to think about it is to figure out what year each "area" was built. T

he Carabasi strip must have been quite early? Perhaps directly after the "Sueno Azul" area? I am unsure about the history of GA before 18-20 years ago when most of us "veterans" seem to have arrived. Wasn't the big white "Gran Alacant 1" block put up first? Before anything else? Wouldn't that make Cocoa's the outright winners? (It was that and old Pan y Mas) that were here when I arrived. Or does the Sueno Azul area predate it?
Title: Re: Oldest businesses in Gran Alacant
Post by: Spurs on March 10, 2023, 16:34.
When I first visited in 1999 Sierra mar was there only the little la taverna bar was open chasers was a bread shop , la paletta was closed as was zest ,the bar that was later an internet cafe and dick Turpin . the Norwegian club was there but rarely open The Patagonia was a children’s playroom with a pool table and some arcade games .
Dragon 1 was open in the white row where suen azul is which was open. Bella vista was open the shops banks and cafés opposed Bella vista were being built . Carabassi bars were just open although only 2 were open .
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Post by: Blue and white stripes on March 26, 2023, 21:02.
Who remembers the corner shop on the opposite end of the block to Sueno Azul? Going back to 2000. It used to be the only place to buy provisions without going into Santa Pola or El Altet. When Spain changed to the euro we bought something in there just to get the new coins. Since then (to our knowledge) it's been a Dragon pizzeria, a veg shop and now is a small bar.
Title: Re: Oldest businesses in Gran Alacant
Post by: gaveteran on March 26, 2023, 23:34.
When Spain changed to the euro we bought something in there just to get the new coins.
Hardcore!
Title: Re: Oldest businesses in Gran Alacant
Post by: marcomarcos on April 02, 2023, 18:51.
Who remembers the corner shop on the opposite end of the block to Sueno Azul?

I remember it well, it was the only place to buy local provisions, other than that it was the bread man in his van at 10am every morning.

The one restaurant I miss is Ricardo’s, he expanded too quickly and went bust.

Title: Re: Oldest businesses in Gran Alacant
Post by: gaveteran on April 02, 2023, 22:07.
Ricardos rings a bell! Wasn't it "Don Ricardos"? Where was it? I am sure I ate there, but shortly after my arrival, and, as for many others I have seen, shortly after arrival is a bit of a blur haha
Title: Re: Oldest businesses in Gran Alacant
Post by: denandrose on April 02, 2023, 22:36.
D’Ricardos was where Cielo Largo is now. It was a lovely restaurant, and yes he went bust, but now has a small bar/ eaterie on Altomar 2 called A tu Gusto, next to the BBVA bank and Dunbars, it’s  excellent, he does a great Paella as well as small plates and tapas.
Title: Re: Oldest businesses in Gran Alacant
Post by: John H on April 03, 2023, 13:31.
D'Ricardos, one of the few restaurants we have ever walked out of due to absolutely appaling service.

Mrs H and I had been two or three times and rated it as average.

We went in one night with four neighbours and the service was absolutely appalling. The very arrogant waiter must have been trained at El Faro, he got our drinks order wrong and told us that it was us that had screwed up and unless we wanted to buy more drinks we were having what we had brought to the table.
Not wanting to spoil the evening we laughed it off and joked that he'd got out of the bed the wrong side.

The starters were then delivered, despite 6 of us ordering a starter only four were delivered  and one of these was wrong......again he protested that he had delivered what we had ordered!!

After a quick conversation we left enough money on the table to pay for our drinks and the four uneaten starters and got up and left, within minutes someone came out waving a meat cleaver at us!!

One of our party was Klauss from Hamburg, a big lad, ex docker, he spoke fluent Spanish (his wife was Spanish)......Snr Meat Cleaver quickly decided that he had tried to bight off more than he could chew and made a hasty retreat back to the safety of their restaurant.

We never set foot in the place again.....tell a lie, we did.....D'Ricardos shut someone else took it over, the name escapes me, it was very very good.

Regards all

John

It reopened as Mirandi, photo attached

Title: Re: Oldest businesses in Gran Alacant
Post by: gaveteran on April 03, 2023, 20:39.
The very arrogant waiter must have been trained at El Faro
haha! Fantastic memories! Yes I remember more now. D'Ricardos (too posh for the Don)  was rated as "the place to go" here for quite a while as I recall, although I don't recall visiting myself. The replacement (I also cannot recall the name) was seen as very upmarket while it was open! Which it was (for here)

I echo your thoughts about El Faro. Bizarre place. Forced to go a couple of times a year by a relative that inexplicably loves the place. Must have an affinity for '60s dining haha. Keeping on topic..... how old is THAT!? Is it in GA? It could be the winner, because I am fairly sure it designed its menu in 1965 (and saw no need to change it) haha!

Cannot leave without putting an off-topic recommendation for Cielo Largo, surely the most underrated Asian eatery in GA, with a very friendly family running it. Not michelin, but solid, and at least slightly different from the "pork balls and MSG" market.
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Post by: gaveteran on April 03, 2023, 20:43.
Found this online from 2007
Title: Re: Oldest businesses in Gran Alacant
Post by: Spurs on April 10, 2023, 16:09.
Any body else remember the old guy who used to ride a moped that he fitted a belt to that went to a grinding wheel he would sharpen your knives for a few cents. Did a great job as well he was a regular visitor but haven’t seen him in years
Title: Re: Oldest businesses in Gran Alacant
Post by: Blue and white stripes on April 10, 2023, 17:33.
I remember him stopping outside our house in Avenida de Europa.