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Gran Alacant Forum => General Discussions => Topic started by: Spurs on January 18, 2021, 19:34.
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So having seen the rollout of vaccines kicking up through the gears in Uk . Just a question what is the situation like in Spain, has it started yet are resident brits getting called up yet ? Any views ?
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Spain started vaccinations on 27th December, they are working on similar priority basis as UK. Everyone who is legally resident and has a SIP card will be contacted when they reach the criteria.
Spain has also said it will be giving the second vaccine at the recommended time of 21 days after the first.
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The UK today passed the figure of 15 million vaccinations which 1500% more than Spain has done. Amazing effort by the now independent Brits. Certainly it has pulled the UK together as one in its fight against this killer.
Derek
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Haven’t the UK done more than Europe combined? , Hungary for one have decided to buy extra outside the group due to slow roll out
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Last week the UK had vaccinated more people than the whole of the EU countries put together.
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Bit strange all the bad press the Astra Zeneca vaccine is getting around Europe at the moment given that just about everyone I know who has had the jab here got that one I’m struggling to see what the issue is ,by my reckoning at least 18 million in the uk have now had 1 shot of this vaccine and about 1 million had 2 shots of it. In Canada 10 million plus have had it as well as millions in the USA
So far I’ve not heard of a single blood clot reported as a result in UK, USA or Canada I’m not seeing the over 65s still dying because it doesn’t work on them ,and so far I’ve not seen people growing extra heads , limbs , or falling down after having it. Yes it can and in my case did make you feel a little rough for a couple of days but nothing bad .
Just putting it out there are the EU trying to undermine it because it’s british and it’s a bit of Brexit revenge? I really can’t see what the issue is the WHO have even said the blood clots reported are less than they would expect in an unvaccinated population .Even when it comes back clear of all charges they have now tainted it to their people and even before this latest fiasco there were hundred of EU citizens refusing that jab
I hope these countries are not putting their peoples lives at risk because of political one upmanship because to me that’s dangerous and I suspect manslaughter
If the EU don’t want it send it back here we can redouble our efforts and get on with it and then help countries that will be happy to get it
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Agree 100% Spurs but I can only give you 9/10 because you forgot to mention the government injecting the microchips into our bodies so they can track us.
It hit me pretty hard - headache, aching joints and a stiff shoulder and arm - for a couple of days but I've ready and waiting for the second dose (roll on 13 May)
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To give you an idea how its going here, they started vaccinating the over 80s las week here in GA, they are much slower here than the UK and if anyone wants to refuse their AstraZeneca jab here i will happily have it myself as My husband and I are not expected to be in that line for the vaccinations until at least June, so I'm thinking its possible it could be more like July. We are in our sixties.
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Just on your point Spurs .... I just dont get the logic behind the countries pausing with the AZ jab especially as they are so far behind. Make no bones about it. this will cost lives in Spain and over teh rest of Europe.
The facts are that there have been 37 reported cases of thrombosis and blood clots - below the level you would expect for such a illness normally. What is more, there is no strong biological explanation why the vaccine would cause a blood clot.
I really cant help its politics over peoples lives
We have both had the AZ jab and virtually no side effects except a sore are - bring on second jab middle of May
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I don’t think it’s anything to do with politics ,in my opinion it’s about the money not just today but in the years going forward. There will be billions to be made in profit but with so many players trying to be the first and most beneficial, discrediting the competition is standard practice. If you notice the claims are subtle but then like Chinese whispers the story spreads, throw in a couple of world leaders to subtly cast worry and concern and hey presto a product bubbles to the top and becomes the global choice of many.Frankly I wouldn’t trust any of them to tell the truth.
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The head of Italy’s medicine regulator AIFA, admitted today that politicians had come under pressure to suspend AstraZeneca vaccines after Germany and France made similar moves.
‘We got to the point of a suspension because several European countries, including Germany and France, preferred to interrupt vaccinations. The choice is a political one’, Magrini said in an interview with La Repubblica.
Twelve EU countries have now suspended the use of the vaccine altogether – while other have blacklisted specific batches.
Meanwhile, health experts in Germany and France have accused their governments of playing politics with the AstraZeneca vaccine, which previously faced criticism after being unable to fulfil orders in Europe.
Scientists fear the latest suspension could fuel anti-vaccine sentiment despite the UK and World Health Organization finding there is no evidence of a link to blood clots.
Conservative MP Anthony Browne said European leaders were driven by ‘politics not science’ and that ‘the EU’s Brexit sulk with cost EU lives.’
Of the 17 million people across Europe who received the vaccine, there have only been 37 reports of blood clots which experts claim is well below normal levels without vaccination.
Regards all
John
https://unredacted.co.uk/2021/03/16/brexit-sulk-italy-admits-astrazeneca-suspension-is-political/?fbclid=IwAR2lmcXGbHF7mRV_6LAG8kdi4G83oZJ65LXnYN10bzNcfYeDAI67dIC4poA
PS A bloke I know had the Oxford/Astra Zeneca vaccine last week and now his Vauxhall Astra's gone and broken down. Coincidence?
Personally, I'm not willing to take the chance, even though we've only got a Mini and a BMW ;)
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You only need to look at the rate the hospital admissions together with the death rate reduction and compare that with those suffering a blood clot.
It then can be seen that thousands of lives have been saved by rolling out the vaccination in the Boris manner (Sorry Wilson I am only joking)
Save a thousand lives at the cost of one to me seems a good deal as long as I am not the one!
Derek
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The real issue in this political or not and I suspect it is political is that in France yesterday they were throwing doses away and given the really bad press it’s had in Spain , France Germany and now about another 12 countries people will refuse to have it . It was already reported that after mad macron issued his comments on it about 4 weeks ago huge numbers in France were refusing it.
Politicians should stay out of it people are dying for their egos. Italy is already falling off a cliff again
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Surely the fact that BioNTech is a German company and the EU massively funded the vaccine made by this company has absolutely nothing to do with it, I think it all stinks. This is big pharma at work with the aid of a couple of puppets.
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I had my first jab, a Pfizer one, at the end of January. I just hope the politicians don't end up disrupting the supplies of my second one due in about a month.
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I had my first jab, a Pfizer one, at the end of January. I just hope the politicians don't end up disrupting the supplies of my second one due in about a month.
That's interesting. In sweden it's three weeks between the pfizer jabs. Got my second this Monday.
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Was intended for 21 days for pzner 2nd jab, but was extended to 90 days to get though the rest of patients waiting.
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Wow Ursula has really spat the dummy now . Threatening export bans , seizing control of Pfizer’s plant in Germany etc etc .
All I suspect to make a large smokescreen around the EUs mess . As of yesterday their were millions of doses of Astra Zeneca sitting in France , but the problem is that even when it gets the full seal of approval from everyone today , no one will take it , Mr Macron would have more chance offering poison as he has personally tainted the product so badly no one will touch it .
I voted to stay in EU but seeing it descend it to this chaos is making me think I was wrong
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Your right Spurs - I was very much a pro EU person who voted to remain.
The way that the EU is handling itself over the vaccination fiasco and it brutal bullying of countries that might have wanted to go there own way on this makes me have to sadly admit I was wrong to support them.
I am hearing more soundbites coming out of the Eu presidency and council of how they want to surround themselves with more Federalist powers going forward.
Ursula Von der Leyen - is clearly incapable and power-mad, on one hand she talks of sanctions and stopping exports of the Oxford/AZ jab out of Europe and then (encourages?) a failure to to uptake of the available stocks that are there sitting on shelves.
I am truly baffled
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Was reported that they are suspending of the Pfizer vaccine to ensure that there are enough doses to give people their second dose.
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Oops. Don’t know who is advising Ursula but they are not doing a very good job. I’m not sure it will work to ban exports of vaccines to the country that supplies the raw materials to make it . Sounds like another Irish border climb down coming.
Foot in mouth moments are becoming the norm in this fiasco of roll out in EU meanwhile millions of Aztra Zeneca vaccines sit in fridges in France and Germany as no one will touch it
I really hope they get their act together soon we all need them to get up to speed but I suspect until Ursula and Macron have gone this is going to keep happening
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We have the Pfzer 2nd jabs booked for this week @ our health centre in stockport
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My second AZ jab is due 13 May.
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So the Berlin region of Germany has again suspended the use of Astra Zeneca vaccine on under 60s this time . They are siting a single blood clot case. I suspect Macron in France can’t wait to do the same .
How many more times do they need to check the facts .
Everyone from the WHO down to the EU medical buffs have said it is no more likely to cause side effects than Pfizer or any of the other vaccines, it’s as effective if not better than Pfizer in all age groups
Could this be because it’s british ? If they don’t want it send it back here we can redouble our program , where over 20 million have had it with no evidence of blood clots
Politics over lives from EU again
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I think this will all end in tears, foreign companies investing do so believing there goods or services are safe from political interference, can you imagine if the uk banned exports of Nissan and Toyota cars, the Japanese would rightly pull investment from the country. All the major vaccine players are non eu owned so must be considering the long term strategy if vaccines are needed for years to come, we can’t have napoleon waving his flag every 5 minutes causing mischief with Herr Murkool.
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Just send the spare ones back to the UK (and send them no more)
Makes me laugh on one hand they (wrongly) blame AZ for not supplying enough and state that's the reason they are behind - now they are not using it THAT is the reason why they are behind!
The EU has only got itself to blame on this matter and now will have blood on its hands as more people will die
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And yet again the AZ vaccine has been cleared by the EU medical team (for about the 100th time ) I expect any moment dopey Macron will ban it in France.
You have to feel sorry for the French people who are now in a very bad place with the virus probably worse than anything we have seen here and a lot of the blame for that sits at the presidents door .
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We had first of AZ vaccination on 13th Feb, have now been told that we can have the second after 8 weeks so are booking in next Monday for an appointment later on in the week. The roll out seems to be going extremely well in our neck of the woods.
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I had my second Pfizer exactly eight weeks after the first. Whilst I no longer own a place in GA and don't have the anxiety that you guys are experiencing, this pandemic has disrupted my continental touring in my motorhome last year and this year looks like a repeat situation. Factor in the additional Brexit implications and it seems that the world has gone mad.
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Just had a call from Santa Pola for my 1st jab tonight, with 2nd jab on
30th, 3 weeks exactly to the minute.
Quick question, anyone know where to go in Santa Pola ?
I think she said 2nd floor, Avenida Canalejas,1@ 7pm.
Is parking easy, as there doesn't appear to be a car park?
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Not 100% sure but that looks like the area where the market is .There is a health centre at the bottom corner where they do covid testing. You can park where the market stalls set up when there is no market.
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I’m surprised Spain is still going for the 3 week gap between jabs . All the evidence released so far indicate that 3 months is not only better for the overall effectiveness of the drug it allows more people to get the first jab quicker which gives the most protection.
Think the EU may have got it wrong again
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Not 100% sure but that looks like the area where the market is .There is a health centre at the bottom corner where they do covid testing. You can park where the market stalls set up when there is no market.
Is that just off the port Trident?
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Not 100% sure but that looks like the area where the market is .There is a health centre at the bottom corner where they do covid testing. You can park where the market stalls set up when there is no market.
Found it easily down by the harbour. In and out 10 minutes before my appointment time :)
I forgot to ask what vaccine they were giving out. Anybody know?
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Only know which one you would not have had. The one with the A and Z in it.