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Title: Things I won't miss
Post by: Tony Gillam on May 24, 2017, 08:00.
Having now sold after fourteen and a half years, I shan't miss
Dog mess on the pavements
The school's music choice
Painting the balcony railings
Cleaning the Sahara dust off the shutters
Queueing at the car rental desk

I will miss most of the other stuff though
Title: Re: Things I won't miss
Post by: John H on May 24, 2017, 08:49.
Best wishes Tony, I remember you as one of the original forum posters, it must be 12 years since I met you at one of the "forum gatherings"
I hope your sale completed in the last few days to take advantage of the favourable exchange rate.
I'd appreciate any learnings you have from repatriating the proceeds of the sale as hopefully I will be in the same situation in the not too distance future

Regards

John


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Title: Re: Things I won't miss
Post by: Maricia on May 24, 2017, 09:57.
Having now sold after fourteen and a half years, I shan't miss
Dog mess on the pavements
The school's music choice
Painting the balcony railings
Cleaning the Sahara dust off the shutters
Queueing at the car rental desk

I will miss most of the other stuff though

Did you put this list together for your new buyers? :) Best of luck for the future!

Maricia
Title: Re: Things I won't miss
Post by: puddy-woo on May 24, 2017, 11:24.
Best of luck. It seems to have taken a while.  I hope you were happy with your sale price


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Title: Re: Things I won't miss
Post by: Duncan S on May 24, 2017, 11:54.
All the best, Tony.  Back on the Solent, or other plans?
I share your sentiments [ we sold our place on Med II last year ].

For John - we used transferwise to repatriate our proceeds. No problems at all.
https://transferwise.com/      I know people have spoken about them to get money to Spain and in our experience, it's just as easy in the opposite direction, with very reasonable charges.

Once you have decided to 'move on', I hope you are able to sell soon.

Regards
Duncan S
Title: Re: Things I won't miss
Post by: Tony Gillam on May 24, 2017, 11:55.
Caveat Emptor, Maricia. Caveat Emptor.  ;)

A little disappointed with the final sale price but it still seems a buyer's market atm. I have to view it against the overall uncertainty of Brexit and the ongoing cost of ownership. Overall, we've had fourteen years of cheap holidays. Just left trying to guess what the exchange rate is going to do over the next month or so.
Title: Re: Things I won't miss
Post by: John H on May 24, 2017, 11:56.
Cheers Duncan, TransferWise was on my shortlist
I had a chat in Sabadell about their rate and charges, they offered commercial rate at a very low cost of transfer

Regards all

John



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Title: Re: Things I won't miss
Post by: Spurs on May 24, 2017, 12:01.
I have heard all kinds of stories of how to get the cash back here including carrying it in a suitcase . The main issue is you have to pay UK capital gains tax which is quite a big chunk.
Title: Re: Things I won't miss
Post by: Tony Gillam on May 24, 2017, 12:02.
The Solent does beckon, Duncan, particularly today with the sun shining and a pleasant breeze. The idea of blowing it all on my dream catamaran does cross my mind but realistically, I will probably stick with the caravan as it doesn't require scrubbing off and antifouling and I'm not getting any younger. Might be tempted to switch to a motorhome but that is about as far as it goes.
Title: Re: Things I won't miss
Post by: John H on May 24, 2017, 12:10.
I have heard all kinds of stories of how to get the cash back here including carrying it in a suitcase . The main issue is you have to pay UK capital gains tax which is quite a big chunk.

I had someone wanting to buy our place a few weeks ago Spurs, he wanted to pay a huge chunk in cash and the rest by bank transfer.
No mention of the cash part was to be mentioned anywhere!!
On the advice of the estate agent, solicitor and bank I refused his offer, a suitcase full of euros is neither use nor ornament to me!!

Regards all

John


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Title: Re: Things I won't miss
Post by: Spurs on May 24, 2017, 12:32.
So they old grey money still exists it used to be the norm the notary looked the other way as cash was handed over.

The person I knew who carried some cash back about €60000 had a real nightmare changing it or banking it due to the money laundering laws here that are now even tougher
Title: Re: Things I won't miss
Post by: Corporal Jones on May 24, 2017, 21:21.
The rate is the best its been for a long time. You pays your money and takes a chance. Best of luck for the future Tony, like you we bought in 2002 it appears not many of us left now.
Title: Re: Things I won't miss
Post by: dleafy on May 24, 2017, 22:54.
Having now sold after fourteen and a half years, I shan't miss
Dog mess on the pavements
The school's music choice
Painting the balcony railings
Cleaning the Sahara dust off the shutters
Queueing at the car rental desk

I will miss most of the other stuff though
Good luck Tony,we're currently about 100 yards from you & about40 yards from the school. We like their music .
Enjoy your retirement.
Cheers
Dave


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Title: Re: Things I won't miss
Post by: John H on May 25, 2017, 08:56.
We do as well Dave, the Mrs and I play "I'll name that tune in....."
Whoever picks the music has a great and varied taste, they play some good music

Regards all

John


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Title: Re: Things I won't miss
Post by: Stan on May 25, 2017, 12:08.
I have heard all kinds of stories of how to get the cash back here including carrying it in a suitcase . The main issue is you have to pay UK capital gains tax which is quite a big chunk.

For those lucky enough to make a capital gain!
Title: Re: Things I won't miss
Post by: Corporal Jones on May 25, 2017, 18:18.
If you make a capital loss i don't suppose the Spanish authorities will give back some of the purchase tax.
Title: Re: Things I won't miss
Post by: Spurs on May 25, 2017, 21:13.
That's a very good point victor I wish they would although I doubt it . Makes me sick why should we have to pay any capital gains tax   I worked for the cash , i payed tax on it once ,I saved it , i went without other things to buy the place I took the risk buying 16 years ago I've maintained it why should any govt take this tax it's like robbery
Title: Re: Things I won't miss
Post by: John H on May 25, 2017, 21:37.
I'd love to have a big CGT bill when we sell ours!!
As it is after 14 years when I deduct the allowable costs we will just about break even.

Regards all

John


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Title: Re: Things I won't miss
Post by: Spurs on May 25, 2017, 21:41.
John not that I'm looking to sell but what are the allowable deductions ?
Title: Things I won't miss
Post by: John H on May 25, 2017, 23:28.
From memory
Buying costs
Structural improvements.....not things like air con that can be unbolted and general upkeep.
Selling costs

In Spain you can also add onto this your Suma and Tax bills.

Our solicitor, we've used the same one since we bought the place, had all these figures to hand and showed me how she would get our 3% retention back as our "gain" will only be a few hundred Euros

Regards all

John




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Title: Re: Things I won't miss
Post by: John H on May 26, 2017, 08:57.
.....and don't forget if the property is in joint names you have the £11,300 CGT allowance each in the U.K.


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Title: Re: Things I won't miss
Post by: Graham H on May 26, 2017, 14:03.
We stay 4 or 5 times a year in Novamar 2 and the music at the school is our alarm clock. Love it. The thing that gets on your nerves is the bloody Police and their whistles.......Grrrrrrrrr.
Title: Re: Things I won't miss
Post by: Corporal Jones on May 26, 2017, 17:49.
John are you then saying without all the other deductibles, , that if you bought for 100 thousand and you sold for 99 thousand then no 3% retention.
Title: Re: Things I won't miss
Post by: John H on May 26, 2017, 17:57.
The 3% is taken Victor whilst they "check your account" at the hacienda, if all you tax has been paid and as in your example Victor no "gains" have been made then the 3% can be claimed back.
Our solicitor includes this as part of the sale process.
Conversely if you make a big gain and owe quite a few euros unless the authorities chase you back to the UK you'll only cough up 3%
At today's exchange rate a sale any time soon would be great!!

Regards all

John


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Title: Re: Things I won't miss
Post by: Tony Gillam on June 10, 2017, 07:52.
Further to previous posts and in response to John Hannon's request.

I've now got my sale proceeds back on UK territory. A bit of a convoluted procedure and, as expected BBVA charged for the bank draft going in and then charged again to send to money to my UK a/c. The whole exercise took a couple of weeks too. It would have been easier to have shown up at the notary myself, collected the bank draft and brought it back to the UK and paid it in. I could have shaved about eight days off.

I've swapped half of it from UK Euro ac to my sterling one, a procedure that takes three days, substantially faster than BBVA did to effect an interbank transfer. Just watching to see the effects of "a period of stability" now before switching the rest.