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Title: Title deeds ?
Post by: bramleylad on June 30, 2016, 22:22.
Hi all , i have just finished paying my Spanish mortgage ( hurrah !!! ) ,my question is ,when i paid my English mortgage off i could either leave my title deeds with the bank or have them myself ,what is the procedure here in Espana can i just ask my bank/mortgage provider  for the deeds does the bank hold on to them or is it another !! trip to the notary to pay out more fees ? all info much appreciated
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Post by: Spurs on June 30, 2016, 23:13.
I suspect another trip to a notary I remember we had to go to get ours signed
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Post by: bramleylad on July 01, 2016, 15:53.
Thanks Spurs , but could you keep them yourself then , it's just that i  don't trust Spanish banks !
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Post by: Spurs on July 01, 2016, 16:19.
Yes you can keep them we have ours
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Post by: puddy-woo on July 01, 2016, 16:56.
Yes I have mine also. 


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Post by: Blue and white stripes on July 01, 2016, 17:28.
I too have all my title deeds. I picked them up from the lawyers after all the paperwork had been completed.
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Post by: DaveG on July 01, 2016, 21:41.
We have ours as well but I'm sure that just getting the deeds isn't enough you have to get the bank to cancel the mortgage at the land registry. Our bank didn't want to do it as it's apparently a bit of a hassle but our solicitor insisted. We signed a form "Autorizacion de Tramitacion y Carga" at the bank and this was then processed at the Land Registryand the Liquidacion forms from the LR are attached to the deeds.
This was in 2007 so may have changed but worth asking.
Dave
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Post by: angieanded on July 02, 2016, 13:45.
you do need to get the morgage cancelled the bank is suposed to do it for you when we sold our place
i had to pay 700 euros to have it cancelled other wise it still shows there is a morgage on the property
as it has to go to notery keep your deeds  with the blue stamp on you know where they are then
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Post by: MICKKAT on July 02, 2016, 15:11.
Just finished ours off and the bank had to go to notary to say and sign we had paid it off.  Then the notary had to do his bit which took the normal months.  Eventually it was done and now we await deeds.  It costs to do this as that's life in Spain.
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Post by: Spurs on July 02, 2016, 18:07.

At least in Spain the title deed is a real official looking document in the uk now it's a computer printout !!
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Post by: Aficionado on July 03, 2016, 00:35.
Hi all, am I not right in thinking that the original of the title deed - escritura - is held in the land registry, the one that you have, complete with official stamps, is the notarised copy. Fairly sure that was how it was explained to me when we bought ours all those years ago.

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Post by: John H on July 03, 2016, 00:47.
I thought I had the original of mine here in the uk, I discovered when I visited our Spanish solicitor last year that I have a full colour photocopy, she was holding the original document for safe keeping


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Post by: Spurs on July 03, 2016, 11:02.
I think there are two copies one as you say held at the land registry and the other we were given by the notary on completion of the sale from the builder to us .the notary signed it and stamped it . I keep it in England with a photocopy in Spain
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Post by: kevinb on July 03, 2016, 17:01.
Made sure I have copy of my Spanish deeds held in different location didn't have mortgage so everything straight forward , what a lot of people don't realise is that when you sell your house you need the passport that you had when you purchased the property.

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Post by: DaveG on July 03, 2016, 21:24.
Yes we too were advised to keep the original passport(s). Ours are filed away with the deeds.
Dave
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Post by: Aficionado on July 03, 2016, 22:51.
Where does that come from? Is it written into law somewhere?

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Post by: bramleylad on July 04, 2016, 00:50.
WHAAAAAT ! nobody mentioned keeping our old passports ,who saves all their old passports ?  your'e obviously the same person or they wouldn't renew it surely ?
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Post by: Tony Gillam on July 04, 2016, 07:10.
Oops. I think I might have the number on some correspondence somewhere but that's it.
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Post by: DaveG on July 04, 2016, 10:44.
I have no idea what the law says but we were advised to keep our old passports for any resale of the property so that's what we have done. They are filed along with the deeds.
As the title deeds make reference to your passport that was current at the sale it seemed reasonable to follow the advice and keep them.
Perhaps someone who has sold and moved can advise if they were required.
Dave
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Post by: llamedos on July 04, 2016, 11:24.
Made sure I have copy of my Spanish deeds held in different location didn't have mortgage so everything straight forward , what a lot of people don't realise is that when you sell your house you need the passport that you had when you purchased the property.

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Crazy!, DNA and fingerprints would be more secure.
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Post by: Spurs on July 04, 2016, 11:26.
Never heard that one don't think I have my old one anymore I'm sure an NIE number and a new passport will suffice might have to look for the old ones though
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Post by: John H on July 04, 2016, 12:39.
Our solicitor in Spain who handled our purchase has notarised copies of our old passports on file, you will probably find that the solicitor who handled your purchase has the same. I only know this because we went through our file with her last year when we were contemplating selling.

I vaguely remember reading somewhere before that these are required.

Regards all

John

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Post by: Corporal Jones on July 04, 2016, 15:10.
I had a similar issue when making a change on a sabadell bank account which had taken over my halifax hispania account opened 14 years earlier, no changes could be made without both account holders and the passports used to open the account in 2002. With the now ex wife residing in Australia not willing to pop over to GA it became a nightmare of tooing and froing to complete a simple task. Bureaucracy gone mad.
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Post by: Aficionado on July 04, 2016, 16:47.
Well, we all know about the Spanish love of paperwork and bureaucracy so it really wouldn't surprise me to find out that this is true. It is still quite mad though.

A cousin currently has her property up for sale, she has owned it over 10 years so must be on a different passport now, if she gets a buyer I will let you all know if this turns out to be a problem.

Edit: Just spoken to her, she was surprised to hear about this and has not been advised about it by anyone, including her selling agents. We will see.