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Title: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Spurs on June 29, 2017, 15:44.
Ryanair have denied today that they have changed their free seat allocation policy . I am not convinced twice this year when travelling with someone they have allocated free seats a dozen rows apart when both were on the same booking and checked in together etc interestingly on both occasions the seat next to me was empty and we moved around as soon as the door was shut . I also have spoken to others who have had the same thing happen . This did not happen last year as we were always seated together . I assume this is another scam to "encourage/ force " people to pay to book a seat and if travelling with kids I would always do this . 

What will they think of next to try to fleece the traveller
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Sookie on June 29, 2017, 18:40.
The same has happens to us a few times now. I have their app and you you can see the seats available and they now seem to fill the window and isle seats first.  Be interesting to see what happens on our flight back. Flying out I was row 9 mark was row 21. So more than a few rows behind.
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: John H on June 29, 2017, 18:47.
We always pick our seats, and pay a few quid, still cheap as chips.


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Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Lesue on June 29, 2017, 19:40.
This is an oldie but I thought it was worth seeing again.  ;D

https://youtu.be/HPyl2tOaKxM
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Corporal Jones on June 29, 2017, 22:17.
So what if ryanair random seat allocation isn't that random, dont be so tight and pay a few quid to have allocated seats, throughout the booking process you get asked the same old questions, do you want extra legroom, do you want priority boarding, do you want a specific seat, do you want a hold bag, if your answer is NO to all the above you will undoubtedly end up with a no frills flight at a lower price than any other airline. If your answer is yes but you think i wont pay I'll turn up with some old sob story about sitting together or trying to sneak on extra luggage then ryanair will make you pay for it one way or another. There's always some people who want something for nothing.
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Spurs on June 29, 2017, 22:36.
I don't mind paying but the point is you didn't have to last year to sit together now you do and Ryanair have denied a policy change , if you are going to do these things be upfront and don't lie about it . They are obviously doing it deliberately because the seat next to me on two flights this year was empty
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Blue and white stripes on June 29, 2017, 23:16.
I've always been allocated a middle seat by them as I refuse to pay extra but I always also get my boarding pass as soon as their website lets me. Next time I'll leave it until the last minute and see if I get a window or isle seat.
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: bramleylad on June 30, 2017, 00:52.
I can't see a problem not being seated together (,unless children are involved) , we go to work and don't see each other all day ,but can't bear to be parted for two and a half hours ,it's not like it's a flight to Australia !!
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: puddy-woo on June 30, 2017, 08:16.
It does seem a bit petty - and surely more work for them to not just sit bookings together where possible seeing as they are actually on the same booking form.  This doesnt happen, as far as I know, with Easyjet. Just checked in on line and our seat nos are together. it wouldnt bother us anyway on a 2 hr flight.


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Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: John H on June 30, 2017, 09:24.
They are a business and are quite rightly for the benefit of their shareholders looking for ways to increase their profits, this must be an opportunity they have identified and are exploiting, good on them.
Mr O'Leary may well say "pay up, shut up or use another airline"
We invariably use his, good flight times....our main criteria and even when you add the extras on more often than not still the cheapest and incredible value for money

Regards all

John


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Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Blue and white stripes on June 30, 2017, 13:35.
Ryanair are nearly always the cheapest and often by a considerable amount. That is why I use them. On the odd occasion we have bought our seats (due to not being 100% certain of getting the passes printed for the return journey) we both go for a window seat anyway. As Bramleylad says it's only 2 1/2 hours. My other half says she gets a more intelligent conversation when she's not sitting next to me.
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Sookie on July 01, 2017, 05:26.
 They have stated on twitter that they keep the window and isle seat for the people who are either travelling alone or paying for a seat.   


Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Graham H on July 01, 2017, 18:36.
Blue Air to Liverpool. Perfect.
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Tony Gillam on July 02, 2017, 07:47.
Yes, some of them are given to uncouth language.  ;)
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Graham H on July 02, 2017, 13:14.
Yes, some of them are given to uncouth language.  ;)

 :D
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Occasional tourist on July 02, 2017, 17:06.
Regardless of whether it's an inconvenience or not, they are lying, and they have changed the booking software to shut them. Was on a flight last week and EVERYONE on the flight who did not pay for seats were separated, some of them with a row of 3 to themselves! So.....just before take off, all of those people changed seats to be with their family & friends etc. then the crew decided they has lost a passenger, so everyone had to revert to their allotted seat again until they realised where they had screwed up! In the long run, it will inconvenience them. Change it back you miserably buzzards! 
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Corporal Jones on July 02, 2017, 22:14.
The mind boggles, those that didnt pay were seperated, they weren't seperated because they were never together in the first place. Please spare me this nonsense, if you wish to sit together PAY UP if you dont pay dont winge about sitting all over the place its called random seat allocation if you dont like it fly british airways. GET A GRIP.
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Spurs on July 02, 2017, 22:29.
Your missing the point victor up until this year Ryanair's policy was to allocate seat together where possible they have now changed that without telling anyone to deliberately not sit people together . I personally don't care I can pay the extra if I want to but for people on a budget this can add £80 to a family of 4 holiday and the website does not say that if you don't pay you will be separated .  Also they have denied that anything has changed when it clearly has .

Put a line on the website saying if you don't pay for an allocated seat you will be separated the people can make a choice
Title: Ryanair
Post by: Lorraine smith on July 02, 2017, 22:48.
Stop moaning about seating. If you want to sit together pay for your seats as others do. Flights are not expensive anyway, some people are always ready to complain and do not want to cough up.
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: mike and judith on July 03, 2017, 09:40.
Realistic prices for travel?
Compare any low budget air carrier price with say, a rail fare from Cornwall to London & see the difference.
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: John H on July 03, 2017, 10:19.
It's sometimes more like "Council Estate Banter" on here rather than a forum populated in the majority by folk who have a second home in the sun.
I'll get shot now.....but folk who mess about getting a bus from the airport to GA........after 5 hours of traveling I don't begrudge that €18 taxi fare one iota in order to get home and put the kettle on.
Flack jacket to the ready!!

Regards all

John


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Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: llamedos on July 03, 2017, 15:55.
What you need to do is this, once the aircraft has taken off go and stand next to your beloved and start chatting, if everyone did this they wouldn't be able to get their overpriced goodies down the aisle as quickly as they want. If they move you on then swap to the other seat. 40 people stood in the aisle and hardly any sales will soon make them think of another money making scheme, like charging to use the toilets.


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Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Stuart159 on July 03, 2017, 17:06.
Keep quiet, I've been paying for seats at opposite ends of the plane for years, its the only peace and quiet I get.
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Blue and white stripes on July 03, 2017, 17:24.
One man's meat etc. Certainly seems to suit Stuart.
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Corporal Jones on July 03, 2017, 18:35.
John you must have lived on a posh council estate because the estate i grew up on the banter was settled with fists and baseball bats. The forum banter is more sunday school.
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: John H on July 03, 2017, 20:22.
Definitely lived at the posh end Victor, we were that posh that if we still lived there we'd invite the neighbours round for Pot Noodle sandwiches.

Regards all

John


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Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Spurs on July 03, 2017, 20:36.
Not sure about a pot noodle sandwich but I would recommend a fish finger sandwich they are awesome
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: John H on July 03, 2017, 21:40.
......my Auntie used to give us crisp sandwiches and sometimes sugar sandwiches.
In the words of the song "that's living alright"

Regards all

John


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Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Spurs on July 03, 2017, 22:20.
The crisp one is good depending on flavour but sugar yuk ,!!!!!
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Keith and Jen on July 06, 2017, 08:25.
I love sugar butties, especially when made using butter instead of margarine (when Jen's not looking).

Keith
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: dleafy on July 08, 2017, 09:48.
We never payed for seats together but always got put together.......until this year. Now they definitely split you up.
I'm sure there are plenty who will pay to sit together in future and if so, then Ryanair have done what they no doubt set out to do.

Wor lass was 10 rows behind me last time even though there was no one next to me. After we took off I went to see her. She asked if there was a spare seat.....I said no  :D
Two and a half hours on a plane is nothing and we're happy to use the £30 we save (Coz I've never...ever found one of the £6 seats they advertise!) to buy a few ice cold beers or glasses of wine.

We're going to Tenerife in November and Torremolinos next easter with another couple and have paid for us all to sit together on those flights as they simply can't bear the thought of sitting alone. Doesn't bother me in the slightest.

Cheers
Davy !!!
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: llamedos on July 08, 2017, 18:12.
Just found another Ryan air rip off, if you fly with a child then you MUST buy a seat although the child gets a free one next to you. I did find some cheap ones for €4 but guess where they were?.


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Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Corporal Jones on July 08, 2017, 20:01.
Article in the daily mail today with some family bleating about being seperated and sat all over the plane because they were too tight to pay for allocated seats, and thought Ryanair would sit them altogether because they should. 2 facts here, the first you weren't separated because you were never sat together to start with, secondly despite numerous requests during the lengthy booking process you chose NOT to pay for allocated seats, your decision, no force or coercion used, just thought we'll get something for nothing.
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Spurs on July 09, 2017, 09:22.
Still missing the point victor if you make a major change to your service like this is be up front announce it put it on your website ...

Say if you don't buy a seat then you will not be sitting together

People can then decide
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: John H on July 09, 2017, 09:34.
They never did promise a seat together.....the only way to guarantee the seats of your choice is to prebook them.
We always book two isle seats.......surprising how many requests you get from the passengers in seats A&B and E&F if they can swop with you as they have mobility issues. Our answer is always no, if you have issues then book and pay for the seats you want, just as we did to select these seats

Regards all

John


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Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Spurs on July 09, 2017, 12:29.
Totally agree puddywoo that's what I've been saying be honest Ryanair then people can make their choice I usually pay because I like a aisle seat but that's my choice others choose not to pay extra and if that means they can't sit together fine but make it known
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: John H on July 09, 2017, 13:10.
Cheers Spurs, your comments are appreciated

Regards all

John


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Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: petercs on July 09, 2017, 13:26.
John has been one of the most helpful people on this site, for me it was advice about a refurb for the kitchen. People come and go on this site and a small minority use it to dig at others. John is totally right about paying for seats. If you want a choice of seats then pay for them. A much bigger issue on these low cost airline flights is the number of stag/hen parties who have absolutely no consideration for other passengers
 
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Admin on July 09, 2017, 15:30.
I have removed a post that was defamatory about one of our members who is also a very considerable contributor to this site. I want this site to continue in a friendly and informative way and not go against our Forum rules. Other postings have been removed to make things look a bit more presentable.
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: bertdove on July 09, 2017, 15:39.
Many thanks for that.  Let´s not allow this forum to degenerate into bitchiness and name-calling.

Bert
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Chris C on July 09, 2017, 21:01.
As said previously if you want particular seats then pay for them or fly with Jet2, Monarch etc if you feel they provide you better value... leave those of us who don't give a toss where we sit to continue enjoying dirt cheap flight to the Costa Blanca. Ryanair is a business not a charity. If you think they are being under-hand then don't use them, simples
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Blue and white stripes on July 09, 2017, 21:52.
Agree 100% with Chris C.
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Corporal Jones on July 09, 2017, 22:35.
Chris C has hit the nail on the head, ryanair has becone a huge sucess simply because there business model is to sell a seat cheaper than any other airline, but at the lowest price thats all you get a seat, extras cost more. We have travelled all over europe with ryanair for flights that cost less than £50, an absolute bargain. Last month we flew to new york with BA, lovely big allocated seats of our choice, 2 main meals and 2 snacks during flight, unlimited bar service, endless entertainment, lovely hostesses, an all round great service. Cost £600 each, puts our £90 flughts with ryanair to alicante into perspective.
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Blue and white stripes on July 10, 2017, 08:32.
100% agree with Victor as well
I flew to Switzerland with Swiss Air. Free croissant, coffee, orange juice and a chocolate as I left the plane and my hand luggage was a bit big so they put it in the hold for free. The cost 4 times a Ryanair flight.
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: puddy-woo on July 10, 2017, 13:42.
I have removed a post that was defamatory about one of our members who is also a very considerable contributor to this site. I want this site to continue in a friendly and informative way and not go against our Forum rules. Other postings have been removed to make things look a bit more presentable.
Hi

You have removed mine. I dont mind but I never said anything defamatory ?


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Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Blue and white stripes on July 10, 2017, 15:16.
'Other postings have been removed to make things look a bit more presentable'.
This is probably why Puddy-woo.
I returned to the forum after a few days away and missed all the excitement so have no idea what was said.
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Corporal Jones on July 10, 2017, 15:54.
Forums all over rely on members expressing there opinions,  and thats what they are an opinion, not necessarily right or wrong just an opinion. Sadly some people just get arsey and shouty just because they think they're right and others are wrong. Its never personal just my opinion.
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: BeachLife on July 12, 2017, 07:49.
I fly to Graz in Austria every week now with BMI Regional - the corporate fare is £528 for a shorter flight than to ALC. For that I get access to a lounge at both ends, which to be honest at BHX is a shambles so I dont bother using it - get a croissant on the way out and a sandwich on the way back. Ryanair is better value for sure !

I dont have to pay to reserve my seat when I check-in though
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: John H on July 20, 2017, 12:34.
I wonder if they charge more for seats with a view of the "action" ;-)

https://www.euroweeklynews.com/3.0.15/news/on-euro-weekly-news/costa-blanca-south-torrevieja/145126-brit-holidaymaker-outraged-as-couple-have-sex-on-alicante-flight

Regards all

John
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: llamedos on July 20, 2017, 14:16.
They're going to fit a big screen at the front and sell popcorn.


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Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Corporal Jones on July 20, 2017, 22:45.
I flew ryanair to alicante last week from that awful brumigun airport, we had the pleasure of a stag party and hen party on board probably 30 persons total. they were all sat randomly and they were the commonest people you could ever meet, most of the males struggled to speak more than 2 syllables together. The remaining 150 normal people endured over 2 hours of these flotsam f ing and blinding, utter pond life. im embarrased to say were from the same country. The point of this post is if they had been sat together then i think fighting would have ensued at least being seperated kept them all at arms length. bring back capital punishment i say.
All the above is my own opinion not shared by my sane wife and children.
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: puddy-woo on July 20, 2017, 22:52.
I feel your pain. We had the same experience last year. I stupidly told one of them to keep his voice down.  He was even louder for the rest of the journey with a few comments directed at me. They were also on our return flight but we didn't take off until the police came onto the plane and took one of them off. Not sure what he had done but they were all very quiet on the return journey. Benidorm has a lot to answer for!!!


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Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Chris C on July 21, 2017, 00:39.
Thursdays outbound to Spain are normally worst. It's not just Ryanair, I've witnessed the best man and another smack-rat from the same party being arrested at the gate of a Jet2 flight at Leeds, he took exception at having his bags put in the hold and was clearly pissed. They were both knicked and hand-cuffed.
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Aficionado on July 21, 2017, 00:47.
Agree about Thursdays, was told this by an EasyJet cabin steward a few years back, have avoided them ever since.
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Blue and white stripes on July 21, 2017, 10:47.
I don't know why we're bothered. It won't be a problem in a couple of years. (Thanks to Guy for posting).

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10214606633985446&set=gm.1584479048286818&type=3&theater

Or that's today's story anyway.
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Spurs on July 21, 2017, 14:25.
I think they may have bigger problems now there is a report doing the rounds about the scratch cards they sell in flights that only a very tiny amount gets given to charity oops
Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: llamedos on July 21, 2017, 14:31.
If it's about Ryan air not being able to fly here from UK after brexit then it's got some people really hot and bothered on Facebook N332. Teddies are being launched from prams as we speak.


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Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: John H on July 21, 2017, 18:24.
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Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: John H on July 21, 2017, 18:29.
I think they may have bigger problems now there is a report doing the rounds about the scratch cards they sell in flights that only a very tiny amount gets given to charity oops

Ive seen that doing the rounds again Spurs, it was originally posted a few years ago by someone wanting to spread a bit of malice, a little bit of research shows some £500,000 a year being donated to charities by Ryanair

Regards all

John


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Title: Re: Ryanair or is it lyingair
Post by: Spurs on July 21, 2017, 19:53.
Thanks john did seen a bit weird I'm sure mr O'Leary is way to clever to be caught in that sort of issue.

I expect that flights will continue to increase even after brexit  Jet 2 front Stansted are new this year and I'm sure they won't be the only one whether in the EU or not the airlines and the Spanish govt know there is way to much money at stake to upset the Brit holiday makers