Post by: Gemstone on December 07, 2016, 09:13.
Post by: John H on December 07, 2016, 12:38.
Did some double glazing for us, very reliable, they make it all in house and are a lovely family
Use with confidence
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Regards all
John
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Post by: Gemstone on December 07, 2016, 16:17.
Post by: Alicante Holiday Villas on December 07, 2016, 17:16.
Post by: BeachLife on December 08, 2016, 17:55.
What does the forum think ?
When we bought our houses 10 years ago we were convinced (probably by the grille sales people) that we would be instantly burgled if we didnt have them fitted.
Now, I think decent standard double glazing with proper security locks is just as secure and the house would look so much better without grilles - what do we think ?
We dont need or use grilles in the UK .......
Post by: Spurs on December 08, 2016, 20:16.
I have grills as well and they may well be overkill but I suspect they act as a deterrent although that would only move a dedicated thief on to an easier property
Post by: Corporal Jones on December 08, 2016, 23:42.
Post by: Maricia on December 09, 2016, 16:45.
From my experience in the security industry i would asess most GA properties as pretty poor. Firstly the grilles are all show with no substance, the weak link being the security bolts which can easily be removed in seconds or the brickwork that its secured to which has little structural strength.Secondly all front doors have super reinforced multi point locking systems, sadly the euro lock can be got round in less than 5 seconds.
Interesting....we had a grill removed and it took around an hour to remove one grill with an angle grinder!
BW
Maricia
Post by: John H on December 09, 2016, 17:26.
Mindst you, how many "forced entries" do we have in GA, it's mostly opportunists nipping in through an open/unlocked door.
Back to the "double glazing" discussion, all our windows are double glazed, Lord knows why, it's a bit like putting an Elastoplast on a colander
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John
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Post by: mike and judith on December 09, 2016, 18:41.
Post by: Gemstone on December 10, 2016, 09:13.
Post by: John H on December 10, 2016, 09:54.
Negative points, the big ones are a dead weight to lift out to clean them, they are very heavy. Make no financial sense re energy saving.
Positive points, do retain some heat in the winter months, keep the heat out in the summer months, definitely help with sound reduction.
Regards all
John
Post by: Gemstone on December 10, 2016, 10:06.
Post by: Maricia on December 10, 2016, 10:23.
BW
Maricia
Post by: Alicante Holiday Villas on December 10, 2016, 15:21.
Post by: Corporal Jones on December 10, 2016, 22:02.
Post by: bertdove on December 10, 2016, 22:37.
Bert
Post by: Maricia on December 11, 2016, 10:14.
Maricia i can assure you that any grilles fitted after construction using security bolts can be easily and neatly removed by simple tools purchased at merca china. Alternatively our friends in javea had theres removed by a rope tied to back of car sadly it pulled half the wall down as well, made carrying the tv out easier though. Without being alarmist the simple fact is if they want to get in they will.
I can only write from experience! In terms of thefts in GA as we all know it is normally via 'trickery' tactics such as, my cat is on your roof (to gain entry), people trying your gate saying they are looking for someone/work or as mentioned through pure opportunity theft such as hands through windows with sticks to fish bags etc (this happened a few times recently in GA).
I have kept grilles but put one on a hinge with a Yale key operation purely for fire and safety reasons.
BW
Maricia