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Gran Alacant Forum => General Discussions => Topic started by: Marjul on April 12, 2021, 12:53.
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has any british resident entered Spain recently, what's needed and was there any problems. I apologise for error I should have asked as any Brit. With Spanish residence travelled back toSpain , were there problems, are the authorities asking for testing
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I think at the moment you can guarantee to have problems entering Spain, newspaper reports of legitimate travellers with correct paperwork being put back on the plane they arrived in at Alicante airport.
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has any british resident entered Spain recently, what's needed and was there any problems
I will update you Saturday evening.
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Are you travelling Wilson? If so good luck.
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Good luck - have all the paperwork in triplicate!
Will be an adventure in itself .... 8)
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Are you travelling Wilson? If so good luck.
The Wilsons are off (hopefully) booked the flights months ago so nothing to lose. All within the rules both UK and Espania. Intending to be one of the 8000 a day who Grant Scnapps couldn’t quite explain who they were when asked last week, but was satisfied that they travelled within the rules. As my Nan would say, if you can’t beat em join em.
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Being nosey - what are your official reasons for entering Spain, Wilson?
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Being nosey - what are your official reasons for entering Spain, Wilson?
I was thinking that as well. I am sure he intends to journey with complete compliance with the lockdown rules especially after his comments about certain business men being unable to sleep in a straight line. There must be a genuine reason for his travel that complies with the Lockdown rules which make International travel illegal except for a few permitted reasons. I am sure that it is not one of those cases that Wilson so aptly described as "a kettle calling the pot black".
Obviously he would not be applying the rules in a manner that was not in keeping with their intended reason which I think is to protect the health of both those in Spain and the UK. Statutory Interpretation springs to mind. (Which I think is were a court decides what was actually intended by the actual law). I remember an interesting case where a lady was soliciting for sex from her front room to men walking pass on the pavement in Southampton. She was duly prosecuted for soliciting in a public place. She claimed her front room was not a public place. However the court of appeal ruled that the law intended to protect the public and therefore she was convicted. Smith v Hughes 1960. Clearly it was for her unwise to twist the rules. It is funny with age how one forgets what day it is yet is able to remember other complete rubbish of no importance.
Derek
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The latest update from The Spanish Citizens Advice Bureau states;
Permitted reasons to enter Spain after 30 March 2021
From 6pm (GMT+1) on 30 March 2021 (5pm / GMT in the Canary Islands), passenger travel between the UK and Spain will resume, however entry restrictions and testing requirements will remain in force. Only Spanish citizens, those who are legally resident in Spain or those who can demonstrate through documentary evidence an essential need to enter Spain, will be allowed to enter the country. Permitted circumstances include:
Holders of a long-stay visa issued by a Member State or Schengen Associated State, who are travelling onto said country.
Health professionals, including health researchers, and elderly care professionals who are going to or returning from essential work.
Transport personnel, seafarers and aeronautical personnel.
Diplomatic, consular, international organisations, military, civil protection and members of humanitarian organisations.
Students who carry out their studies in the Member States or Schengen Associated States and who have the corresponding permit or visa and medical insurance, provided that they are travelling to the country where they are studying, and that entry occurs during the academic year or 15 days previous.
Highly skilled essential workers whose work cannot be postponed or carried out remotely, including participants in high-level sports events due to take place in Spain.
People traveling for imperative family reasons who can demonstrate an essential need to travel.
All of the circumstances above must be justified by documentary evidence. You should be aware that you may be questioned on arrival by Spanish border authorities to ensure you meet the entry requirements. Spanish border authorities will only grant entry if they are satisfied that your journey to Spain is essential and reserve the right to deny passage.
Obviously Wilson must tick one or more of those boxes, as he wouldn't use the forum to broadcast illegal activity would he.
Regards all
John
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As this is a public forum it would not be wise to give specific details regarding my essential and necessary travel requirements to Alicante during a global pandemic. The reasons fully comply with the current rules regarding leaving the UK and entry into Spain, they are reasons that are now fully accepted by officials at ALC with no problems or misunderstandings apparent. Obviously you will be asked about your essential entry so being able to converse with officials to add context and clarity would be wise, or they may conclude that your on ones jollies as I think may have happened to others recently.
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Best of luck, hope you get in although entry does seem to depend on the mood of the officials who meet you.
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Best of luck, hope you get in although entry does seem to depend on the mood of the officials who meet you.
Hopefully with all the boxes lawfully ticked luck will not be required.
Let’s hope getting back into Brummie Road is a lot easier for us.
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Best of luck, hope you get in although entry does seem to depend on the mood of the officials who meet you.
I've not seen any evidence that luck was required, nor that officials change their mood. Follow the rules, have the correct documentation. Simple as that.
Listening to the advice of English Facebook posts (especially pertaining to TIE cards not being a requirement, despite this country saying they are for over a year) is not recommended.
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It is not so much ‘luck’ or ‘loopholes’...it really should be thinking of the protection of people in this pandemic. The infection rates are rising very quickly in Spain again, but fortunately in the Valencia region we are doing okay. This is not because we have been vaccinated......that is another story......but rather the infection rates remain low here because of the strict lockdown. There can be very very few reasons for anyone to want to choose to travel to another country at present. It all comes down to a persons conscience and doing what is right and what has been set out legally, to attempt to keep others safe. For people living in Spain we are now used to the restrictions....for anyone visiting it is not as you may think. Masks worn at ALL times, bars/restaurants closed at 6pm, street curfew at 10pm, restricted numbers dining together or visiting homes. Always the chance of restrictions being ramped up at any time!!!The weather is a bit up and down at the moment, quite chilly today and looks like rain. So!!!!!! please can someone tell me why, from what I have read on this site, that it seems to have become a challenge to find a way to travel over here.. On another note....anyone who does insist on visiting needs to ensure they have very good health insurance as the EHIC card won’t help you. Whilst the care in hospitals here is fantastic there is a very big language problem if you don’t speak Spanish. Also, if you were to be admitted with Covid you are completely on your own....no visitors at all. It happened to me in January and whilst I was on the Covid Ward there was at least 8 other people from Gran Alacant there too. So, it does happen here and believe me you do not want to be in that position. So to sum it up.....not so much ‘luck’ but more about taking unnecessary health risks.
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It is not so much ‘luck’ or ‘loopholes’...it really should be thinking of the protection of people in this pandemic. The infection rates are rising very quickly in Spain again, but fortunately in the Valencia region we are doing okay. This is not because we have been vaccinated......that is another story......but rather the infection rates remain low here because of the strict lockdown. There can be very very few reasons for anyone to want to choose to travel to another country at present. It all comes down to a persons conscience and doing what is right and what has been set out legally, to attempt to keep others safe. For people living in Spain we are now used to the restrictions....for anyone visiting it is not as you may think. Masks worn at ALL times, bars/restaurants closed at 6pm, street curfew at 10pm, restricted numbers dining together or visiting homes. Always the chance of restrictions being ramped up at any time!!!The weather is a bit up and down at the moment, quite chilly today and looks like rain. So!!!!!! please can someone tell me why, from what I have read on this site, that it seems to have become a challenge to find a way to travel over here.. On another note....anyone who does insist on visiting needs to ensure they have very good health insurance as the EHIC card won’t help you. Whilst the care in hospitals here is fantastic there is a very big language problem if you don’t speak Spanish. Also, if you were to be admitted with Covid you are completely on your own....no visitors at all. It happened to me in January and whilst I was on the Covid Ward there was at least 8 other people from Gran Alacant there too. So, it does happen here and believe me you do not want to be in that position. So to sum it up.....not so much ‘luck’ but more about taking unnecessary health risks.
In my view an excellent post. The rules are there to keep us safe. I cannot think of a possible reason for anyone wishing to find a way around them. ( I am not suggesting anyone is) Yes it is hard not to have the freedom to travel but we are all in this together and everyone must do their bit and refrain from travel until it is deemed to be safe. More cases will only delay the date when others can enjoy travel again. The lockdown is working both in Spain and here in the UK which is giving a chance to get the population vaccinated.
Derek
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I would like to apologise for the wording in my previous post, I should have asked if any Brit with Spanish residence recently travelled back to Spain, are the authorities asking for testing
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It is not so much ‘luck’ or ‘loopholes’...it really should be thinking of the protection of people in this pandemic. The infection rates are rising very quickly in Spain again, but fortunately in the Valencia region we are doing okay. This is not because we have been vaccinated......that is another story......but rather the infection rates remain low here because of the strict lockdown. There can be very very few reasons for anyone to want to choose to travel to another country at present. It all comes down to a persons conscience and doing what is right and what has been set out legally, to attempt to keep others safe. For people living in Spain we are now used to the restrictions....for anyone visiting it is not as you may think. Masks worn at ALL times, bars/restaurants closed at 6pm, street curfew at 10pm, restricted numbers dining together or visiting homes. Always the chance of restrictions being ramped up at any time!!!The weather is a bit up and down at the moment, quite chilly today and looks like rain. So!!!!!! please can someone tell me why, from what I have read on this site, that it seems to have become a challenge to find a way to travel over here.. On another note....anyone who does insist on visiting needs to ensure they have very good health insurance as the EHIC card won’t help you. Whilst the care in hospitals here is fantastic there is a very big language problem if you don’t speak Spanish. Also, if you were to be admitted with Covid you are completely on your own....no visitors at all. It happened to me in January and whilst I was on the Covid Ward there was at least 8 other people from Gran Alacant there too. So, it does happen here and believe me you do not want to be in that position. So to sum it up.....not so much ‘luck’ but more about taking unnecessary health risks.
In my view an excellent post. The rules are there to keep us safe. I cannot think of a possible reason for anyone wishing to find a way around them. ( I am not suggesting anyone is) Yes it is hard not to have the freedom to travel but we are all in this together and everyone must do their bit and refrain from travel until it is deemed to be safe. More cases will only delay the date when others can enjoy travel again. The lockdown is working both in Spain and here in the UK which is giving a chance to get the population vaccinated.
Derek
Funnily that was very similar to what I said a year ago, if we all do the right thing and stick together we can win the battle by the Autumn, sadly many weren’t on the same page and did what they liked and travelled to Spain of which the consequences became clear in November ( within the rules of course) but not the spirit methinks.
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Latest figures show a seven day average of new cases;
Spain 7,541
UK 2,216
When you consider the population on the UK is over 40% greater than that of Spain. If you adjust the figures for this it gives a figure of over 10,000 for Spain.
No wonder travel is restricted to Spain.
Derek
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No tests or quarantine if vaccinated according to elpais https://english.elpais.com/society/2021-04-16/spain-will-not-require-coronavirus-tests-or-quarantines-for-travelers-arriving-with-vaccination-passports.html
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Covid-19 vaccine passports, which the European Union is officially calling “Digital Green Certificates,” will allow citizens of Europe to enter Spain without having to quarantine or take a coronavirus test. Forgot Uk is not in the EU anymore.
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Yep, I read it the same way as you Trident
They are only going to exist for EU citizens
Covid-19 vaccine passports, which the European Union is officially calling “Digital Green Certificates,” will allow citizens of Europe to enter Spain without having to quarantine or take a coronavirus test. Forgot Uk is not in the EU anymore.
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On another topic, I notice a certain smugness from - some - people on the Costas who have recently scrambled to obtain their TIE cards after many (many) years of exceeding the previous 180-day rule when we (the UK) were part of the EU.
You cant come here but we are OK because we are "residents" and can travel between UK and GA freely
I'll get my coat
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Wilson.
Have you made it into Spain? Or are you
A on an Easyjet return flight having just been deported
B in Spanish jail
C telling porkies
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Wilson.
Have you made it into Spain? Or are you
A on an Easyjet return flight having just been deported
B in Spanish jail
C telling porkies
This post made me smile. Hopefully Wilson is also smiling.
Derek
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'Wilson.
Have you made it into Spain? Or are you
A on an Easyjet return flight having just been deported?
B in Spanish jail?
C telling porkies?'
Spurs, If I remember multiple-choice at school there was always a final option 'D None of the above'
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Yes but “none of the above “ would be telling porkies
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This could be bad news. Do they have internet inside Spanish Jails I wonder only as with no update I am beginning to worry.
Derek
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Me too can’t have poor Wilson missing in action or languishing in a Spanish jail
Maybe there is a long queue at passports
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Getting worried now . Using the words of the great Tom Hanks in castaway “ Wilson Wilson where are you “
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What was the song, oh yes "you've got me dangling on a string"
I can see from Wilsons profile that he or someone using his username and password logged on yesterday morning.....
Game playing methinks.
Regards all
John
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John at least we both know a Solicitor that could possibly negotiate his freedom if the worst has happened!
Derek :-\
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John at least we both know a Solicitor that could possibly negotiate his freedom if the worst has happened!
Derek :-\
Specialised in Maritime Law if I remember correctly.
I only met him about four or five times, got to say he was always very generous and I had to argue with him to let me pay for anything.
Happy memories.
Regards all
John
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I agree. He did a load of translations for me as he could speak many languages and refused to take payment from me. A character for sure.
Derek
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I see Spain has put back the possible return date for us Brits until 9th May at the earliest.
https://www.mscbs.gob.es/en/profesionales/saludPublica/ccayes/alertasActual/nCov/spth.htm
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Just seen reports that the 17th May is on for travel to Spain with vaccinations , some sort of pass coming out before then . Spain is also getting ready and making very positive noises about letting brits in from then as well
Just as well Spain needs our cash And more importantly we need to organise a search party for Wilson who I now suspect underestimated the time it would take him to swim the length of France , Portugal and round the Med to Alicante
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Strange as Ryanair have cancelled their May flights to Alicante from Bristol. I think other airlines have also cancelled flights from other airports to Alicante.
I expect Wilson is sitting on the beach oblivious to the fact his return trip is likely to involve a rather long walk.
Derek
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Ryanair just moved my Birmingham - Alicante flight from 19 -21st May. The flight is now sold out, as is the following Friday.
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WIFI is available on the beaches now Derek......so no excuses for our long lost ‘freind’ to not make contact!!! Some do the talk......but not too good at doing the walk....me thinks!!!!
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WIFI is available on the beaches now Derek......so no excuses for our long lost ‘freind’ to not make contact!!! Some do the talk......but not too good at doing the walk....me thinks!!!!
Brilliant
Derek
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So are we having a sweepstake on Wilson’s next appearance here ? It’s getting on towards a week now 🤷🏼♂️
Incidentally, the wife arrived back yesterday with all her correct residency and testing information and was through Alicante airport within half an hour, happy days 👍🏻
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Sorry folks but the BOE (Spanish bulletin) announced yesterday that the date at which third country travellers can enter Spain is now extended to 6pm 30th May, so effectively no admittance till 31 May for UK travellers unless they fulfil the continuing strict excemptions, which haven't changed
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It's looking doubtful that Spain will make green list for no quarantine on return to UK due to high infection rates, poor vaccinations roll out etc so it won't matter.
Spains tourism industry will probably never recover fully if they don't open fully by June .
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I do think the UK side of the rule making will be what determines how many people can actually come to Spain this summer. If you have to test before you come and then have two tests, one before you fly back in and another after so many days and have to quarantine, all per person, its going to make it impossible for most, cost wise for all and in particular the quarantine part for people who work returning.
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I do think your right Sunseekers and because the fat controller doesn't want us to travel he will make it as difficult as possible. Still a lot of post Brexit politicking going on.
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I do think your right Sunseekers and because the fat controller doesn't want us to travel he will make it as difficult as possible. Still a lot of post Brexit politicking going on.
Careful Dave,
I dared to suggest this would happen at the start of the year and was labelled a ‘lefty’ on here ! 😂
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The Wilsons are back in Blighty. For those genuinely interested please read on. Point of clarification for our chief moderator my device was not logging in it was actually logging out, which for those of us who understand the world of communication is deemed good practice across all platforms.
The travel both ways was quite uneventful, the outbound was reasonably full as was the return flight. I also noticed the flight disembarking at ALC was quite full. Our Spanish friends were overjoyed to see us as they have also had a tough year in many ways. Momentum on vaccination is gathering pace with a comparable position to the UK in February. I’m not sure whether the non Spanish are in the same position though as apparently lots have left in recent weeks to get jabbed in there home country. Other than that all is still the same in GA with a new normal being accepted widely. Speaking with an estate agent friend from Calpe demand is going up with many city dwellers speaking to relocate to the coastal areas. There’s a lot of fingers crossed for the return of tourists in June as many businesses are on the brink. Hopefully our next return to GA in a couple of weeks will be something like normal.
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Thanks for update Wilson, were there many tourists or property owners in area whilst you were there or is like January time with no one about?
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Amazing that thousands of people can attend a indoor concert in Liverpool by having to pay to have a c.v negative test. If we have to fly to Alicante £160 for a negative test
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£80 for a drive -in test at the NEC Birmingham
https://www.expresstest.co.uk/
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Sorry my post on Liverpool concert should have read that negative testing was free
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Amazing that thousands of people can attend a indoor concert in Liverpool by having to pay to have a c.v negative test. If we have to fly to Alicante £160 for a negative test
The simple fact that there’s been a cross party committee on ‘foreign travel’ this week should tell you all you need to know. U.K. politicians rarely do anything amicably cross party.
I’ve been saying for a long time, the U.K. has been generous to the point of near economic suicide with its covid support compared to most of the world, and now it needs to do all it can to ensure as many of these hand outs get spent in the U.K.
I doubt many of the U.K. obstacles currently in place to make foreign travel less costly will be removed in any great hurry, regardless of what the prospective destinations say or do.
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In my view total rubbish. The Government are of course concerned that we do not need another lock down, The idea that the restrictions are in place to encourage spending at home is lefty nonsense. Next they will be a claim that the virus is not real and has been conjured to make the poor poorer and the rich richer.
This rubbish can be heard at speakers corner loud and clear by those that always think that there is a conspiracy. Could it not just be that Countries that have failed to control the spread of the virus are a risk and the UK Government are wanting to protect us Brits. Maybe that is too simple.
By the way you do not buy a negative test as referred to in two previous post. You actually purchase a test that might show that you are either positive or negative.
Derek
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Whilst I fully appreciate that there are more important things than people dying from coronavius like who paid for his wallpaper but here are the facts
Last seven day average of new cases in the UK 2,129 Spain adjusted for population difference 14,514 new cases. Spain death rate over the past 7 days is 546% greater than the UK. 97 daily average against 15. Yes the restrictions are in place to increase the share price of Butlins for sure!!
Yes who paid for that wallpaper?
Derek
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I feel it’s all becoming a bit of a fiasco now. We were told to get jabbed so we could fly on holiday. Hey we have been jabbed, now the goalposts are moving. I understand we need to be cautious, but it’s now getting a bit tedious. Think anyone who has been jabbed fully should be allowed entry in and out then a lateral flow test in and out on return to the UK. If all ok should be able to carry on. I’m happy to quarantine on return if that is what is needed but really think it’s time to get back to normal.
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I feel it’s all becoming a bit of a fiasco now. We were told to get jabbed so we could fly on holiday. Hey we have been jabbed, now the goalposts are moving. I understand we need to be cautious, but it’s now getting a bit tedious. Think anyone who has been jabbed fully should be allowed entry in and out then a lateral flow test in and out on return to the UK. If all ok should be able to carry on. I’m happy to quarantine on return if that is what is needed but really think it’s time to get back to normal.
Think you are making this up as you go. The Government never said get jabbed and you can fly I think that was an advert from a well known airline that was banned. They are saving lives which might be tedious to you as you are one of the lucky ones whom have survived.
A roadmap for getting out of the lockdown was announce and has not been altered to date as tedious as it it (to you), No movement of the goal post.
Derek
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/feb/03/ryanair-jab-and-go-ad-banned-covid-summer-holidays-complaints
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But surely we have to believe the vaccines work don’t we and if we are fully vaccinated why can’t we go? We cannot stay hidden at home for ever, if they work they work great if the6 don’t then we may as well carry on as normal because we have no other plan
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For Derek
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Well said Derek.
We are only just over a year into this, we still have a lot to learn about this awful virus, the last thing we need is new variants hitting our shores that could possibly undermine the excellent work of the NHS and the restrictions we have all faced over the last year.
If you are worried, as I would be about your house there are companies in GA such as Novadesta who undertake inspections of your property and provide reports on its condition. They did it for us for years.
It's easy enough to contact them and securely get a set of keys to them.
Regards all
John
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My wife & I will not be visiting our place in G.A while this rip off charge for a clear test is required 48 hours prior to travel. For a £250 return flight we are asked to pay 150£ each (approx) outward & same flying back £600 total. Did the thousands who attended a venue in Liverpool without masks have to pay for the test to attend, same for Wembley cup final. Don't also understand why you can visit a pharmacy for free testing. Like been mentioned previously 2 jabs should allow you to travel
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Ian, if you wish as I do that life will return to normal you should be grateful to all those who ignored social distancing, the rule of six, mask wearing etc at the concert in Liverpool, further testing and analysis of those involved in the "expiriment" will hopefully open the door to more freedom for all of us.
Regards all
John
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Ian, if you wish as I do that life will return to normal you should be grateful to all those who ignored social distancing, the rule of six, mask wearing etc at the concert in Liverpool, further testing and analysis of those involved in the "expiriment" will hopefully open the door to more freedom for all of us.
Regards all
John
If Boris had pulled his finger out and made sound decisions based on lessons learnt many times over about previous virus infections and stopped his impersonation of coco the clown then this nonsense could have been resolved last year. Added to this shambles a good proportion of society who try and undermine absolutely every bit of guidance there is( how difficult is it wear a mask properly and stand 6 ft away) then we will be pushing sand uphill for the next decade. In my opinion it’s now every man for themselves you pay your money and take a chance, if you don’t like risk stay indoors and watch endless repeats for the rest of your days. Me I’m off.
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Ian, if you wish as I do that life will return to normal you should be grateful to all those who ignored social distancing, the rule of six, mask wearing etc at the concert in Liverpool, further testing and analysis of those involved in the "expiriment" will hopefully open the door to more freedom for all of us.
Regards all
John
If Boris had pulled his finger out and made sound decisions based on lessons learnt many times over about previous virus infections and stopped his impersonation of coco the clown then this nonsense could have been resolved last year. Added to this shambles a good proportion of society who try and undermine absolutely every bit of guidance there is( how difficult is it wear a mask properly and stand 6 ft away) then we will be pushing sand uphill for the next decade. In my opinion it’s now every man for themselves you pay your money and take a chance, if you don’t like risk stay indoors and watch endless repeats for the rest of your days. Me I’m off.
Hypocritical. What a contradictory post if ever I have seen one. I thought it would not be long before you apportion blame like when your Ryanair flight was cancelled a while back. Captain hindsight hope you enjoyed your trip to GA recently. As I have said before it is so strange that when things go right I can take the credit but whenever something goes wrong I blame someone else (In your case a requirement for blond hair is required).
Derek
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Sadly Derek my blonde locks departed many moons ago. As for hindsight unless I’m a descendant of Cystic Peg my neighbours can testify to me hollering on a daily basis at the decisions made by Captain Calamity, they didn’t make sense then, they don’t make sense now and history and an independent enquiry will undoubtably find that the boys were negligent in the decisions made. And as for Ryanair running a coach and horses through numerous EU consumer/passenger laws, my head do spinneth in disbelief at such nonsense. Like I said previously I’ve done my bit to the letter now selfish or not it’s all about me, I’m off with Easy Jet.
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I'm no Boris fan Wilson, apart from the vaccination program and testing...and he did manage to just protect the NHS from being overwhelmed...his record has been appalling.
He can not however take the blame for how other countries have faired in fighting this pandemic. I really hope that he follows scientific guidance when taking his decisions on overseas travel.
In the meantime we are looking forward to seeing our latest grandson who was born in February, we haven't been able to meet him yet, visiting our brothers and sisters, dining out, having a drink in the local and taking a couple of holidays in England...things that current controls will allow us to do, fingers crossed, I'd hate to see those things being screwed up due to others "taking a chance'.
Regards all
John.
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I’m no Boris fan either but I suspect that history and any reviews etc will probably show that he has done as well or better than most leaders of countries . No one knew what we were really facing 13 or 14 months ago , like most people we had seen it before with warnings about Asian bird flu ,sars, Zika and many others . He like us was in totally uncharted territory . Some things he got wrong like being late with lockdowns and the Christmas fiasco but some he called perfectly like vaccine purchases early and the actual rollout.
Interestingly we are now 13th in the death per million of population in Europe way behind Italy and Hungary and the French and Spanish are not far behind us now. This is the only measure that until total excess deaths are published gives an accurate measurement of how a country is doing.
We have to look at the positives . Everyone said when the kids go back to school rates will increase , hasn’t happened,they also said relaxing lockdown rates will increase hasn’t happened, they said pubs opening outside will increase rates hasn’t happened. Hopefully the next few steps out of lockdown will continue this trend.
I hope we can travel to Spain in next few weeks and as soon as it’s legal I will be on a plane
All of this can only now be due to vaccines, and for that we must be grateful.
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Have to agree with Wilson. We have to trust in the vaccine we have had. I have been shielding for a year and never took the risk of travelling last Summer/Autumn when lots did, rightly or wrongly. Now it’s time to get moving again. Infections are at their lowest since last summer. I for one will be hopping on that plane if the flight is going in June. Was it selfish of the people who went last summer ? If the answer is no then it’s certainly not selfish this summer to fly to Spain
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I don’t think it was selfish of people to go to Spain last summer . If it was then I’m guilty I went . It was legal in both countries, not a excuse or some ruse claiming I was selling it etc .As soon as it’s legal I’m off again , I have faith in the vaccine
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https://mol.im/a/9545897 So it now seems that vaccinations are driving down infection and not lockdown, no doubt though that while we were waiting for the vaccines that not mixing with other people helped slow infection. I think we are now in a position to get back to normality.
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I don’t think it was selfish of people to go to Spain last summer . If it was then I’m guilty I went . It was legal in both countries, not a excuse or some ruse claiming I was selling it etc .As soon as it’s legal I’m off again , I have faith in the vaccine
That’s a politicians answer when found out, nothing to see here, no laws broken, all within the rules mlud. Still doesn’t make it right, just means you get away with it, whilst the rest of society looks on in bewilderment as to how it’s possible. As said previously whilst at ALC awaiting our flight we watched the incoming passengers disembark from the UK, whilst I didn’t see any hen parties or kiss me quick hats, there sure seemed a lot of essential business being conducted. Like I said I’ve done my bit to the letter both lawfully and ethically.
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I don’t think it was selfish of people to go to Spain last summer . If it was then I’m guilty I went . It was legal in both countries, not a excuse or some ruse claiming I was selling it etc .As soon as it’s legal I’m off again , I have faith in the vaccine
That’s a politicians answer when found out, nothing to see here, no laws broken, all within the rules mlud. Still doesn’t make it right, just means you get away with it, whilst the rest of society looks on in bewilderment as to how it’s possible. As said previously whilst at ALC awaiting our flight we watched the incoming passengers disembark from the UK, whilst I didn’t see any hen parties or kiss me quick hats, there sure seemed a lot of essential business being conducted. Like I said I’ve done my bit to the letter both lawfully and ethically.
I expect they (other travellers) were looking at the Wilsons with exactly the same thoughts. What nonsense to suggest others were possibly breaking the rules which of course you would never do.
Derek
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I wasn’t suggesting that the passengers I saw at both LTN and ALC were breaking any rules, I can only surmise that the 8000 people a day coming through UK ports have similar essential travel requirements as the Wilsons do.
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Spain on amber travel list so no mass travel FTB.
If you do travel where can you get a pcr test in area before returning to UK
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I was going to ask same question Chris and Jackie
I did see somewhere they were going to have one at Alicante airport but I’ve not seen it confirmed
Wilson I assume as you went last week where did you get a test prior to return ?
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https://testcoronavirus.imedhospitales.com/citaDisponible
They are available at Elche hospital but there was talk of setting up a centre in Alicante airport.
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How long before you travel back to the UK do you need a test is it 72 hours before as it is from UK to Spain?
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Confirmed yesterday that the Covid passport will be accessed via the nhs app ( not test and trace app) checked mine and jab details are showing. I assume the “ passport” will show in the documents section. Paper copies available also from GP. Friends who were trying to get app said that verification is now up to a week because gp has to grant access. When we did ours recently we linked the app to our passports with a facial scan, all seemed very clever but a bit big brother. You can also put others on your app if required.
On a separate topic, like many we check car hire prices once booked to see if there’s a better deal, all 6 bookings including next week have increased 50% since booking in January, not sure if it’s optimism or demand but the prices are crazy being asked.
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Hi Wilson
Can I ask why you did not answer Spur's question being?
"Wilson I assume as you went last week where did you get a test prior to return ?"
Derek
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With regards to the question regarding testing this end.
My wife returned to the U.K. at the beginning of April and got her test done at the salvum clinic at Santara.
I believe they are also available at the GP at Massa, and at the IMED talking to other recent travellers.
Prices do seem to vary, but not to the extent of those in the U.K.
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Hi Wilson
Can I ask why you did not answer Spur's question being?
"Wilson I assume as you went last week where did you get a test prior to return ?"
Derek
Derek if I thought for one moment that Spurs or your interest was genuine then I would gladly provide my experience at the clinic but methinks it lacks sincerity.
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You can get a test in 3 places :
Imed in Torrellano
Salvum Clinic in GA (Santara Resort)
Family Doctors in GA (Masa Square)
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You can get a test in 3 places :
Imed in Torrellano
Salvum Clinic in GA (Santara Resort)
Family Doctors in GA (Masa Square)
Any idea of cost & booking process, think it’s just antigen ie rapid flow test for return to uk
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Hi Wilson
Can I ask why you did not answer Spur's question being?
"Wilson I assume as you went last week where did you get a test prior to return ?"
Derek
Derek if I thought for one moment that Spurs or your interest was genuine then I would gladly provide my experience at the clinic but methinks it lacks sincerity.
It is genuine I’m looking to go after 17th and as we need a test to get back I wondered where you got yours and what it cost , I thought the idea of the forum was to help each other
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There is a private doctor in the Masa Square opposite the Bowls club. They offer PCR tests....they have an advert in the Gran Alacant Advertiser.
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This is just from my own experience of tests....in particular lateral flow!!! I had one at the Imed Private hospital in January because I wasn’t feeling well (40 Euros). The appointment system was a nonsense and still had to wait over an hour. Result was within 30 minutes (negative)!!!! Within a few days and feeling very ill I was admitted to Elche hospital with Positive Covid and Pneumonia....very frightening indeed. It really needs pointing out more that Lateral Flow tests are cheaper (which seems to be important to people at moment), BUT have quite a high failure rate. Give it some thought guys and stay safe...x
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You can get a test in 3 places :
Imed in Torrellano
Salvum Clinic in GA (Santara Resort)
Family Doctors in GA (Masa Square)
Any idea of cost & booking process, think it’s just antigen ie rapid flow test for return to uk
Probably best to contact them for your individual requirements 8) Contact details below
Salvum
info@salvumclinic.com
Imed
elche@imedhospitales.com
Ga Family Doctors
info@familydoctors24h.com
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I agree with you Spurs.....why would you not want to help people on the forum if:
.. you have the knowledge, or
...you have the ‘legal’ experience.
My view is if you have experience which is ‘genuine’ then offer help to others...why wouldn’t you????
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I agree with you Spurs.....why would you not want to help people on the forum if:
.. you have the knowledge, or
...you have the ‘legal’ experience.
My view is if you have experience which is ‘genuine’ then offer help to others...why wouldn’t you????
And your view methinks falls into the sincerity category or rather lack of.
Hopefully see you there Spurs when I arrive on the 22nd.
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I agree with you Spurs.....why would you not want to help people on the forum if:
.. you have the knowledge, or
...you have the ‘legal’ experience.
My view is if you have experience which is ‘genuine’ then offer help to others...why wouldn’t you????
And your view methinks falls into the sincerity category or rather lack of.
Hopefully see you there Spurs when I arrive on the 22nd.
Fair enough Wilson you have no answer as obviously as we all knew you never went to GA two weeks ago
I know this as a fact because there although you may have had legitimate reasons to leave UK ie trumped up I’m selling my property etc, but there was no way to get into Spain unless it was as a returning resident or you had a job to do that could not be done by a Spanish resident
There are no other reasons
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The key pupose of this forum it "to become great resource for information on this part of Spain that we all share a love of"
I guess plenty of folk who are contemplating a visit would be very gratefull if you shared the experience of your testing before your recent flight home wilson.
Regards all
John
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Hi Spurs
How could you suggest such a thing. I agree it would be nice to know how it was that a member entered Spain without being a resident and completely within the rules of the game.
It is rather like who paid for the wallpaper maybe we will never know!
Derek
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Hi Spurs
How could you suggest such a thing. I agree it would be nice to know how it was that a member entered Spain without being a resident and completely within the rules of the game.
It is rather like who paid for the wallpaper maybe we will never know!
Derek
Trouble when you tell porkies it just escalates . Still If Wilson had stayed home and Boris went to B and Q instead life would be boring
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Thread closed.